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plaidthunder | 3 days ago

Words are cheap. Actions aren't. Dario Amodei is putting his company on the line for what he believes in. That's courage, character and... yes, morality.

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sheikhnbake|3 days ago

I have a feeling this is just a negotiation tactic leveraging public sentiment rather than a stance based on morality.

tfehring|3 days ago

It's both - it's clearly at least partly for moral reasons that they're even in the negotiation that they need leverage for.

bogzz|3 days ago

I am convinced that Amodei's "morality" is purely performative, and cynically employed as a marketing tactic. Time will tell, but most people will forget his lies.

jstanley|3 days ago

How should he have acted instead?

janalsncm|3 days ago

It’s possible Dario is a bad person pretending to be good and Sundar is a good person only pretending to be bad. People argue whether true selflessness exists at all or whether it’s all a charade.

But if the “performance” involves doing good things, at the end of the day that’s good enough for me.

signatoremo|3 days ago

Standing up to the US government has real and serious sequence. Peter Hegseth threatened to make Anthropic supply chain risk, meaning not only is Anthropic likely dropped as Pentagon’s supplier, but also risk losing companies doing business with the military as customers, such as Boeing or Lockheed Martin. Whatever tactic you think he is doing, that’s potentially massive revenue lost, at the time they need any business they can get.

mvkel|3 days ago

These are literally words. The DoW could still easily exploit these platforms, and nothing Anthropic has done can prevent it, other than saying (publicly), "we disagree."

layer8|3 days ago

The dispute seems to be specifically about safeguards that Anthropic has in its models and/or harnesses, that the DoD wants removed, which Anthropic refuses to do, and won’t sign a contract requiring their removal. Having implemented the safeguards and refusing their removal are actions, not “literally words”.

janalsncm|3 days ago

It’s a contract dispute. Contracts are more than just talk.

While it is true that DoW could try to bypass the contract and do whatever they want, if it were that easy they wouldn’t be asking for a contract in the first place.

verdverm|3 days ago

It's not so clear the company is actually on the line. They can compel Anthropic to do what they are not willing to do, maybe, this is not the final act. The government needs to respond, to which Anthropic will need to respond, courts may become involved at that point, depending on if Anthropic acquiesces at that point or not. Make a prominent statement against while in the news cycle, let the rest unfold under less media attention.

slg|3 days ago

Is it morality or is it recognizing that providing the brain of autonomous weapons has a non-zero chance of ending up with him on trial in The Hague?

sebzim4500|3 days ago

This action is far more likely to land him in prison than complying with the pentagon

inigyou|3 days ago

The chance is zero. This won't be deployed in countries that he'd want to visit anyway and would extradite him to The Hague.