[calvinmorrison]

mark my words, they will burn at some point. The government can nationalize it at any moment if they desire.

[gdhkgdhkvff]

Flagship LLM companies seem like the absolute worst possible companies to try and nationalize.

1. There would absolutely be mass resignations, especially at a company like Anthropic that has such an image (rightfully or wrongfully) of “the moral choice”. 2. No one talented will then go work for a government-run LLM building org. Both from a “not working in a bureaucracy” angle and a “top talent won’t accept meager government wages” angle (plus plenty of “won’t work for trump” angle) 3. With how fast things move, Anthropic would become irrelevant in like 3 months if they’re not pumping out next gen model updates.

Then one of the big American LLM companies would be gone from the scene, allowing for more opportunity for competition (including Chinese labs)

It would be the most shortsighted nationalization ever.

[gambiting]

>> No one talented will then go work for a government-run LLM building org.

I think you massively underestimate how many people would have no problem working for their government on this. Just look at the recent research into the Persona system for ID verification, where submitting your ID places you on a permanent government watchlist to check if you're not a terrorist. There's a whole list of engineers and PhDs and researchers present who have built this system.

>> “top talent won’t accept meager government wages” angle

Again, that's wishful thinking - plenty of people want to work in cybersecurity in AI research for the government agencies, even if the pay isn't anywhere close to the private sector. This isn't exclusive to the US either - in the UK MI5 pays peanuts compared to the private companies for IT specialists, yet they have plenty of people who want to work for them, either because of patriotism for their country and willingness to "help".

[moozooh]

Makes me wonder how the engineers working for the "moral choice" company felt about it dealing with Palantir, a company perhaps the furthest away from anything moral.

[mrits]

Anthropic is giving huge bonuses and paying the most. This is the reason talent is there.

[Davidzheng]

Then maybe Dario will realize that the moral superiority that he bases his advocacy against Chinese open models is naive at best.

[jimmydoe]

his against Chinese models is smoking screen for their resistance to DOW, they are not even pretending

[jacquesm]

Better naive than malicious.

[viking123]

Every day I hope the Chinese models get "good enough" to drop these corporate ones. I think we are heading towards it.

[dylan604]

Would anyone pull a Pied Piper and choose to destroy the thing rather than let it be subverted? I know that's not exactly what PP did, but would a decision like that only ever happen in fiction?

[cmrdporcupine]

It wouldn't need to. As sibling commenter pointed out... they'd have a massive exodus of talent, and they'd cease to make progress on new models and would be overtaken (arguably GPT 5.3 has already overtaken them).

[drcongo]

But that's socialism.

[estearum]

Imagine the government trying to force AI researchers to advance, lmao