[bravetraveler]

Some people sit in front of the classroom because they want, others because they must. Many more choose elsewhere. Reasoning is their own.

I don't find it strange, having routinely tanked my own chances/social credit for initiatives... because, like the parent, I don't want a target on my back. Somebody above thinks I do, though, apparently. Experience isn't conditioned on... that experience, if that makes sense. Unpleasant to say the least.

Where you see jealousy, which is a strange thing to invite, I see fear of missing out/rat-racing. Pass. Plenty of motivators and opportunity without the charade. Or, to put it charitably, noise/competition/advertising.

All to say, the initiatives are usually loaded with expectations, reasonable and not. Tread carefully.

[watwut]

There is difference between "this is why I do not want to be part of that" and "this is why the institution as such did not found a way to do it". The some peoples unwillingness to do that is not that much relevant, unless the company is in the "all qualified people are avoiding that task" situation.

> Where you see jealousy, which is a strange thing to invite,

Any desirable position invites slight jealousy. It is no different then when you have low pressure project, project that uses cool language, project with the good manager. I used the word in that sense, in the the "horrible they are going to dislike me" sense.

> I see fear of missing out/rat-racing. Pass. Plenty of motivators and opportunity without the charade.

This seems oddly out of place to me? These initiatives usually give you more freedom and "customer wants it now" kind of pressure.

[bravetraveler]

> There is difference between "this is why I do not want to be part of that" and "this is why the institution as such did not found a way to do it". The some peoples unwillingness to do that is not that much relevant, unless the company is in the "all qualified people are avoiding that task" situation.

Organizations are large, they gave us gifts like the Peter Principle. I'm sure that situation and plenty others exist. I provided my experience/anecdote, showing yours might not be encompassing. Apologies, meant no detraction. Point being, the initiatives are often overrated and rather easy to ignore. By no means am I saying everyone ignores them [or should].

> Any desirable position invites slight jealousy. It is no different then when you have low pressure project, project that uses cool language, project with the good manager. I used the word in that sense, in the the "horrible they are going to dislike me" sense.

Of course, that's why I call it a rat race. A group running towards the same things... to be disappointed, in my experience. The freedom is welcome, the 'customer [or peer] wants it now' pressure can be left behind. None of this requires going out of your way, however. Perhaps that is why organizations may struggle, regardless, I'm thankful for it.

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