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yehoshuapw | 2 days ago

as a kernel developer, I use LLMs for some tasks, but can say it is not there yet to write real kernel space code

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egorfine|2 days ago

Absolutely.

But at the same time I cannot imagine reverting to code with no help of LLMs. Asking stackoverflow and waiting for hours to get my question closed down instead of asking LLM? No way.

cuu508|2 days ago

> But at the same time I cannot imagine reverting to code with no help of LLMs.

And doesn't that bother you a little?

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It is about Air France 447, but also draws parallels to AI and self-driving cars

crimsonnoodle58|2 days ago

Exactly, you can use it for some tasks. But why "explicitly forbid generative AI".

If you use AI to make repetitive tasks less repetitive, and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards, would they notice or care?

I find blanket bans inhibitive, and reeks of fear of change, rather than a real substantive stance.

zozbot234|2 days ago

> and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards

That never happens. It's actually easier to write the code from scratch and avoid LLMness altogether.

jsheard|2 days ago

> But why "explicitly forbid generative AI".

The AI policy linked from the OP explains why. It's half not wanting to deal with slop, and half ethical concerns which still apply when it's used judiciously.

ACCount37|2 days ago

Same.

Having an LLM helps, especially when you're facing a new subsystem you're not familiar with, and trying to understand how things are done there. They still can't do the heavy duty driver work by themselves - but are good enough for basic guidance and boilerplate.

hedora|2 days ago

My reading of their AI statement says your kernel contributions are no longer welcome in PostmarketOS, and also, since you're encouraging others in their space to use such tools, you're in violation of their code of conduct.

This applies to the person you're replying to too.

I think their policy is poorly thought out, and that little good will come of it. At best, it'll cause drama in the project, and discourage useful contributions. It's a shame, since we desperately need an alternative to the phone duopoly.

trollbridge|2 days ago

Guidance and boilerplate... in other words, documentation.