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sixQuarks | 3 days ago

You forgot to mention they solved vision based autonomous driving, but I guess that doesn’t matter if Elon = bad

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zozbot234|3 days ago

SAE level 2 driver assistance is explicitly not autonomous driving.

SpicyLemonZest|3 days ago

It's this kind of dynamic that makes me pull back on my otherwise pretty AI-forward stance. There's an entire community of people who passionately believe it's obvious and undeniable that Elon Musk has solved problems that he has not solved and his companies deliver things they don't deliver. Tesla is absolutely unambiguous in their marketing material (https://www.tesla.com/fsd) that they do not have autonomous driving, but you're far from the first person I've encountered who's been tricked into believing otherwise.

I don't think that's my relationship with AI, I'm hardly an uncritical booster. But would I know if it was?

a_victorp|2 days ago

You definitely would not know if you were, no one does. I think the healthy position is to assume you are wrong and trying to find evidence of why you are wrong

For instance,I'm very skeptical of AI and, from experience, do not think that the current models are worth the cost, but I'm always in HN trying to find arguments/people that use AI successfully to prove that I'm wrong

albedoa|3 days ago

Hope daddy sees this and gives you that lollipop.

iancmceachern|3 days ago

Huh? They did not "solve" vision based driving.

eviks|3 days ago

Of course, but if Elon=great you can ignore that