[cj]

> The market is saying something about the comparative value of OpenAI.

Is it?

At what point are the models going to all be "good enough", with the differentiating factor being everything else, other than model ranking?

That day will come. Not everyone needs a Ferrari.

Edit: I misread the parent, I think they're saying the same thing.

[alephnerd]

> At what point are the models going to all be "good enough", with the differentiating factor being everything else, other than model ranking?

It's already come for vast swathes of industries.

Most organizations have already been able to operationalize what are essentially GPT4 and GPT5 wrappers for standard enterprise usecases such as network security (eg. Horizon3) and internal knowledge discovery and synthesis (eg. GleanAI back in 2024-25).

[9cb14c1ec0]

Yes, and that is why I used the phrase comparative value. The concept of winning business based on being #1 on the benchmarks is dead.

[nradov]

Model rankings are irrelevant. No one cares.

The differentiating factor will be access to proprietary training data. Everyone can scrape the public web and use that to train an LLM. The frontier companies are spending a fortune to buy exclusive licenses to private data sources, and even hiring expert humans specifically to create new training data on priority topics.

[aworks]

Including paying poets and other experts by the hour to improve the models https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/brendan-foody/