[eckelhesten]

Hard decision by Anthropic, but at least they can sleep well at night knowing their products doesn’t kill human beings around the world.

[Gigachad]

That’s the crazy thing. This whole dispute was over Anthropic saying no to fully automated kill bots. They only required there be a human in the loop to press the button.

[fluidcruft]

Anthropic didn't even say "no", it was more of a "not yet, let's work on this".

I really wonder what Palantir's role in all this is because domestic surveillance sounds exactly like Palantir and whatever happened during the Maduro raid led to Anthropic asking Palantir questions which the news reports is the snowball that escalated to this.

[matheusmoreira]

They also said no to fully automated AI domestic surveillance. I suppose non-US citizens like me are screwed but that's at least some small comfort for the natives. FVEY will just spy on each other and share but at least someone tried.

[cperciva]

There were two red lines, as I understand it -- first, automated kill bots, and second, mass surveillance.

[IAmGraydon]

I think it’s far more likely this is about the other sticking point- using it to spy on US citizens.

[next_xibalba]

If we were able to give the Ukrainians fully automated kill bots, and those kill bots enabled Ukraine to swiftly expel the Russians from their territories, would that not be a good thing? Or would you rather the meat grinder continue to destroy Ukraine's young men to satisfy some moral purity threshold?

If we could give Taiwan killbots that would ensure China could never invade, or at least could never occupy Taiwan, would that be good or bad? I have a feeling I know what the Taiwanese would say.

While we're at it, should we also strip out all the machine learning/AI driven targeting systems from weapons? We might feel good about it, but I would bet my life savings that our future adversaries will not do the same.

[jmward01]

'yet'. Their reason for not allowing autonomous weapons usage was it isn't ready, not that they wouldn't do it on principle. Only the surveillance objection was on principle.

[UltraSane]

I don't think it was that hard because if they had caved a LOT of employees would have quit.

[tomp]

A bit of a cop-out, don't you think?

They still pay taxes, which fund the US government, which kills innocent human beings around the world...

[chasd00]

Sleep well in a box under the overpass maybe. If Amazon can’t serve Anthropics model until the courts get everything figured out it will be too late for them.