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lukewrites | 2 days ago

I admire Anthropic for sticking to their principles, even if it affects the bottom line. That’s the kind of company you want to work for.

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mikepurvis|2 days ago

It's also a very clear differentiator for them relative to Google, Facebook, and OpenAI, all of whom are clearly varying degrees of willing to sell themselves out for evil purposes.

disiplus|2 days ago

It will also cost openai dearly if they don't communicate clearly, because I for one will internally push to switch from openai (we are on azure actually) to anthropic. Besides that my private account also.

RivieraKid|2 days ago

Is making effective weapons evil?

QuiEgo|2 days ago

Companies change (remember "don't be evil"?) but yeah for the Anthropic of today, respect.

UncleOxidant|2 days ago

I'm signing up for their $200/year plan to reward them for standing up to this regime.

cal_dent|2 days ago

The team that handles their PR has done an amazing job in the last 9 months

ctoth|2 days ago

Hint: It's much easier to have good PR by being actually good. Though it does make people like this do the whole implication thing.

ternwer|2 days ago

Why? What has their PR department done? Most people are quite critical of a lot of their messaging, it's their actions that seem worth encouraging

noosphr|2 days ago

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kace91|2 days ago

This whole saga is extremely depressing and dystopic.

Anthropic is holding firm on incredibly weak red lines. No mass surveillance for Americans, ok for everyone else, and ok to automatic war machines, just not fully unmanned until they can guarantee a certain quality.

This should be a laughably spineless position. But under this administration it is taken as an affront to the president and results in the government lashing out.

aryonoco|1 day ago

We live in a timeline where you don’t have to have strong morals to be crushed. If you have any morals, you will be crushed.

zamalek|2 days ago

They have earned my business, for now.

jacobsenscott|2 days ago

If you're a billionaire there's no risk to "sticking to principles", so there's nothing to admire. Also that's not what they're doing. These are calculated moves in a negotiation and the trump regime only has 3 years left. Even a CEO can think 4 years ahead.

It's probably in Anthropic's interest to throw grok to these clowns and watch them fail to build anything with it for 3 years.

merlindru|2 days ago

i disagree. 3 years is an insanely long time in the AI space. The entire industry pretty much didn't even exist three years ago! Or at least not within 4 orders of magnitude.

Also, every other company has bent the knee and kissed the ring. And the trump admin will absolutely do everything they can to not appear weak and harm Anthropic. If it was so easy to act principled, don't you think other companies would've refused too? Eg Apple

And there is real harm here. You're reading about it - they get labeled a supply chain risk. This is negative and very tangible

0cf8612b2e1e|2 days ago

Considering how many bootlicking billionaires I see these days, it is still a bit surprising.

bostik|2 days ago

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skeeter2020|2 days ago

why does it need to be a completely different, trained model? AWS doesn't provide unique technologies in their goverment cloud, beyond isolation and firewalled access; Anthropic can do the same thing. Probably need to cough up enough to register a new domain name!

lavezzi|2 days ago

> 83 people in total killed in US attack to abduct President Nicolas Maduro

Blood is on their hands already

xpe|2 days ago

So much left unsaid. So much implied. Let’s make it explicit and talk about it. Here are some follow questions that reasonable people will ask:

What was Anthropic’s role in the Maduro operation? (Or we can call it state-sponsored kidnapping.) Who knew what and when? Did A\ find itself in a position where it contradicted its core principles?

More broadly, how does moral culpability work in complex situations like this?

How much moral culpability gets attributed to a helicopter manufacturer used in the Maduro operation? (Assuming one was; you can see my meaning I hope.)

P.S. Traditional programming is easy in comparison to morality.