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tempest_ | 2 days ago

As bad as cloudflare is there is a reason people use it.

If you try and run a site that has content that LLMs want or expensive calls that require a lot of compute and can exhaust resources if they are over used the attack is relentless. It can be a full time job trying to stop people who are dedicated to scrapping the shit out of your site.

Even CF doesnt even really stop it any more. The agent run browsers seem to bypass it with relative ease.

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neoromantique|2 days ago

Vast majority of websites today can and should be static, which makes even the aggressive llm scrapping non-issue.

PaulDavisThe1st|2 days ago

One of the things that a lot of LLM scrapers are fetching are git repositories. They could just use git clone to fetch everything at once. But instead, they fetch them commit by commit. That's about as static as you can get, and it is absolutely NOT a non-issue.

noplacelikehome|1 day ago

Granted, but there are open source alternatives that don’t have the same obsession with meaningless digital signatures. Turnstile is just a terrible product.

tempest_|1 day ago

What are the open source options? Turnstile is a replacement for Recaptcha after google moved it from a free product to a paid one.

The main advantage of Turnstile is that is benefits from CFs ubiquity to help judge legitimate vs illegitimate requests.

I would love to know what other options are available in this space aside from Turnstile, Recaptcha and HCaptcha.