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push0ret | 1 day ago

So they agreed to the same red lines that had earlier led to the fallout with Anthropic? Kind of strange.

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arppacket|1 day ago

I bet Sam secretly pledged to DoD that the red lines were only temporary, for optics and to calm employees at the all hands meeting.

A few months down the line, OpenAI will quietly decide that their next model is safe enough for autonomous weapons, and remove their safeguard layer. The mass surveillance enablement might be an indirect deal through Palantir.

coliveira|1 day ago

Very possible, double speaking is Sam Altman's specialty.

fatal94|1 day ago

The fact they were able to strike a deal in the first place hours after Anthropic was declared a supply chain risk should make this obvious. Their employees are smart people, the only way they can reason past this is their compensation.

yoyohello13|1 day ago

Sam saw Anthropic was getting too competitive. So he called his buddies in the gov to knock them down a peg.

coliveira|1 day ago

That's very possible! In the last few days Anthropic was getting a lot of attention, and OpenAI was looking weaker in comparison. It seems like a politically coordinated job to remove competition.

Analemma_|1 day ago

For sure, he's been pissed that OpenAI no longer has the Mandate of Heaven and Claude is all anyone has been talking about since December. (And it's not just an ego thing: because OAI isn't profitable yet, they need the hype to keep going to raise money on favorable terms, so loss of buzz is an existential threat). I absolutely believe that he started making calls to try and get buddies in the White House to take Anthropic down.

harmonic18374|1 day ago

I don't trust Sam to be telling the truth. It would be to his benefit to lie about this and make Anthropic look bad, so he of course would, even if it's not actually the case.

Jackson__|1 day ago

Hell, I would have thought it likely that anthropic was doing the same thing. Of course that was proven wrong, but for OAI I wouldn't even be guessing. This has always been what sama does.

fintechie|1 day ago

Well you know how it goes... you need to read between the lines. I can agree with you on your "principles", but not enforce them myself.

fwlr|1 day ago

It makes sense if you imagine the real motivation is “make sure the AI contracts go to my good friend Sam”, and all the red line stuff is just a way to pick a fight with Anthropic.

foobarqux|1 day ago

No, the difference is that the government agrees to no "unlawful" use as determined by the government.

Anthropic said that mass surveillance was per se prohibited even if the government self-certified that it was lawful.