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vineyardmike | 2 days ago

Nah. It's possible that the agreement still supports the required terms.

There is more to this story behind the scenes. The government wanted to show power and control over our companies and industries. They didn’t need those terms for any specific utility, they wanted to fight “woke” business that stood up to them.

Supposedly OpenAI had the same terms as Anthropic (according to SamA). Maybe they offered it cheaper and that’s why they agreed. Maybe it’s all the lobbying money from OpenAI that let the government look the other way. Maybe it’s all the PR announcements SamA and Trump do together.

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sigmar|2 days ago

>Supposedly OpenAI had the same terms

"we put them into our agreement." is strange framing is Altman's tweet. Makes me think the agreement does mention the principles, but doesn't state them as binding rules DoD must follow.

Imnimo|2 days ago

None of those explanations are compatible with the pledge of solidarity in the We Will Not Be Divided letter.

harmonic18374|2 days ago

I prescribe literally zero truth value to what Sam says. He will say whatever he needs to get ahead. It is honestly irritating to me that you and many others here seem to implicitly assume his messages are correlated with truth, doing his social engineering work for him, as if his word should adjust your priors even slightly.

I don't necessarily think he's lying, but there's so much obvious incentive for him to lie here (if only because his employees can save face).

dataflow|2 days ago

> I don't necessarily think he's lying

He doesn't even need to be lying, the comment is vague and contains enough loopholes that it could be true yet meaningless. I explained some that I noticed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47190163

sesqu|1 day ago

I'm not sure if I'd go down to zero, but he did get fired from OpenAI for lying.

jeffbee|2 days ago

It's this simple: Trump is a criminal. Larry Ellison is his pal. Sam Altman has a huge deal for cloud services from Oracle. Trump is using the DoD budget to backstop Ellison's business.

coliveira|2 days ago

This is pretty much on the right take on it, although it's much more than that. It's very clear at this point, especially the first conclusion, but people insist in looking to the other side.

drivebyhooting|2 days ago

Interesting thesis.

But regardless of the moral implications, will this improve America’s position on the global stage or further undermine it?

pseudalopex|1 day ago

> Supposedly OpenAI had the same terms as Anthropic (according to SamA).

He said human responsibility. Anthropic said human in the loop.

And Anthropic refused to say any lawful purpose would be allowed reportedly.

SpicyLemonZest|2 days ago

Maybe Sam Altman said nicer things about Donald Trump. Maybe he promised that he would not revoke their API keys when Hegseth directs the military to seize ballots. Maybe he's jockeying for position to take over the government when AGI hits.

Ultimately, I don't know how much the specific reasons matter. Pete Hegseth must be removed from office, OpenAI must be destroyed for their betrayal of the US public, that's all there is to it.

toufka|2 days ago

1) Another OpenAI cofounder (Brockman) gave Trump’s superPAC the largest ever individual donation of $25m.

2) Trump’s son in law (Kushner) has most of his net worth wrapped up in OpenAI.