[roryirvine]

I'd have been sympathetic to that argument up until a few hours ago.

But it turns out that they were actually negotiating in better faith than their counter-party, who have just launched a war whilst still claiming to be interested in a peaceful settlement.

[JumpCrisscross]

> I'd have been sympathetic to that argument up until a few hours ago

These are somewhat independent variables. America was open about the fact that we were trying diplomacy before force. Either, one or no sides could have been negotiating in good faith and still wound up here with that setup.

[master_crab]

No they weren’t. Trump cancelled the previous treaty and then wanted a new agreement more favorable to the US than JCPOA.

I don’t like the mullah’s in Iran anymore than the next person but no reasonable and sane person would take that to mean “negotiating in good faith.”

[greenchair]

no it doesn't "turn out that". They have a long history of hiding their nuke tech and lying while also issuing death threats to israel. Trust but verify doesn't work with this country.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Trust but verify doesn't work with this country

I mean, the JCPOA verify seemed pretty well thought out.