[xphos]

I mean this is not actually true and the statement justifies and vindicates those that do sell out by saying of course anyone would. There are countless marytr for religion, politics, and other things.

A better way is to say you can always find a cheap sellout at least than the morally dammed cannot claim equality of belief

[zelphirkalt]

> There are countless marytr for religion, politics, and other things.

I think those are not really comparable to OpenAI employees who leave, but that only underlines your point more:

Leaving OpenAI is not like death. In fact most of the employees will have an easy time finding a new job, given the resume of having worked at OpenAI. It is nowhere near any actual martyr.

[raw_anon_1111]

You mean like all of the religious leaders who are actively supporting a defending a three time married adulterer? You’ll have to excuse my skepticism of the morality of “the moral majority”.

[nawgz]

Religion is and always has been about control… it strikes me as exceedingly naive to be surprised the church is backing a pedophile, have you literally ever read any history of any kind?

[xphos]

Not claiming all religious people everywhere are some moral majority? Simply that people die for there beliefs and don't sellout. It happens in religion, politics etc. Also it's some super faulty logic to say look those prominent religious people support trump so all religous people support him is stupid. If that were the case Trump would win every election by massive margins. Trump might win 60/40 in rural areas the 40% he is losing is still very religous generally speaking because rural populations are religious. Cambridge MA voted for Biden by like 96% they have more than 4% of there populations that is also religious.

Also your point is kind of self defeating Trump's true believers dont sell Trump out no matter what he does. He could hide and suppress a pedophile conspiracy and his believers will still say he is tough on crime.

Selling out is bad I think people should passionate stand and be consistent in what they believe and do anything less shouldn't be celebrated or excused because its hard