[gyomu]

Yeah, it’s pretty wild. Even pg is tweeting stuff like

“An experienced programmer told me he's now using AI to generate a thousand lines of code an hour.“

https://x.com/paulg/status/2026739899936944495

Like if you had told pg to his face in (pre AI) office hours “I’m producing a thousand lines of code an hour”, I’m pretty sure he’d have laughed and pointed out how pointless that metric was?

[ruszki]

I don't understand how some people decide here, who the good programmers are. A lot of people reminded me a guy from West Palm Beach, who votes on elections solely on the principle of who has more "fame". Paul Graham is famous for sure (at least in HN circles), but I never considered him an exceptional or good programmer at all. So I always interpreted his words with a hefty amount of grain of salt. And sometimes some comments have a list of "good" coders, then half of them is like these famous, but not good ones.

[TacticalCoder]

> Paul Graham is famous for sure (at least in HN circles), but I never considered him an exceptional or good programmer at all.

pg wrote a Lisp dialect, Arc, with Morris. The Morris from "the Morris worm". These people are at the very least hackers and they definitely know how to code.

I don't think a "not good programmer" can write a Lisp dialect. At least of all the "not good" programmers I met in my life, 0% of them could have written a Lisp dialect.

It's not because Arc didn't reach the level of fame of Linux or Quake or Kubernetes or whatever that pg is not a good programmer.

[medi8r]

He is a Lisper too, making it more ironic. Lisp the power to heavily reduce cruft by heavy customization with macros.

[saltcured]

Thousand left-parens per hour...?

[amelius]

Technical debt is increasing by 1,000 lines an hour.

[manoDev]

They need to keep the musical chairs going.

[lukan]

Hm, I do not read the statement as a hyped "this is how everyone should write code now" rather as a statement of fact. "A experienced programmer he knows uses LLMs to generate thounds LOC/h". That does not say whether those lines will actually be shipped anywhere or just exist for testing purposes/prototyping.

[steve1977]

We all know that a thousand parentheses would be better metric.

[ElProlactin]

Enshittification comes for us all

[wiseowise]

It’s all virtual virtue signaling. If you were to say this shit in the office, you’d be walked out pretty fast.

[Zak]

Who is signaling what virtues to whom in this context?

When I see PG write something like that, it signals to me that he has embraced AI hype to the point that he is displaying poor taste and embracing a risky technical practice.

[andrei_says_]

Maybe it depends on whose office? C-suite management who salivate after reducing software engineer headcount?