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fnord77 | 1 day ago

> 1. Don't let it send emails from your personal account, only let it draft email and share the link with you.

Right now there's no way to have fine-grained draft/read only perms on most email providers or email clients. If it can read your email it can send email.

> 3. Don't let your agents see any secret. Swap the placeholder secrets at your gateway and put human in the loop for secrets you care about.

harder than you might think. openclaw found my browser cookies. (I ran it on a vm so no serious cookies found, but still)

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buremba|1 day ago

> Right now there's no way to have fine-grained draft/read only perms on most email providers or email clients. If it can read your email it can send email.

> harder than you might think. openclaw found my browser cookies. (I ran it on a vm so no serious cookies found, but still)

You should never give any secrets to your agents, like your Gmail access tokens. Whenever agents needs to take an action, it should perform the request and your proxy should check if the action is allowed and set the secrets on the fly.

That means agents should not have access to internet without a proxy, which has proper guardrails. Openclaw doesn't have this model unfortunately so I had to build a multi-tenant version of Openclaw with a gateway system to implement these security boundaries.

zahlman|1 day ago

> That means agents should not have access to internet without a proxy, which has proper guardrails. Openclaw doesn't have this model unfortunately so I had to build a multi-tenant version of Openclaw with a gateway system to implement these security boundaries.

I wonder how long until we see a startup offering such a proxy as a service.

arianvanp|1 day ago

Literally every email client on the planet has supported `mailto:` URIs since basically the existence of the world wide web.

Just generate a mailto Uri with the body set to the draft.

zahlman|1 day ago

> harder than you might think. openclaw found my browser cookies. (I ran it on a vm so no serious cookies found, but still)

It's easy, and you did it the right way. Read "don't let your agents see any secret" as "don't put secrets in a filesystem the agents have access to".