[gman83]

This wasn't due to some random Gemini request. Users were using sketchy antigravity auth plugins to use their antigravity tokens on things like OpenClaw, clearly against ToS. It's great that Google is giving these users a second chance.

[amiga386]

Yes, our masters once again embarrass us unworthy peons with their endless grace, generosity and forebearance. How lucky we are to entrust our data and our lives to them!

[WarmWash]

Anyone can buy the tokens via the API and do whatever they want with them.

Its not evil of Google to say "Here is an allotment of steeply discounted tokens, but you can only use them with our services."

[GaryBluto]

https://youtu.be/ntICHMV-WMA?t=40

"Google Shuts Down Gmail For Two Hours To Show Its Immense Power"

[mikkupikku]

It's easy to sneer at huge corps getting mildly scammed by people stretching or breaking the rules. Certainly I don't shed any tears for these corporations.

On the other hand, I have learned that people who are willing to find exploits with trust-based systems operated by huge corps are very often willing to apply that same cheating and exploitation mentality without regard for who the other party is. These are very often the same people who try to coerce teenage cashiers at locally owned shops to accept expired coupons or combine them in invalid ways, or take produce from a roadside farm stand instead of paying into the honor jar. The mentality of cheating the system seems great when it's against huge inhumane corporations, but from what I've personally seen it rarely stops there, and on the whole it contributes to a low trust society.

[throwaway290]

> our masters once again embarrass us unworthy peons with their endless grace

Masters who serve you in exchange for money?

be as sarcastic as you want but you demand a thing they did not agree to provide, for the same money = they have a right not to serve you. If you disagree with that and think they owe you something then you are the one playing master here.

[exitb]

If a 3rd party product advertises compatibility with a Google service and you use it to login via a first party Google login page, doesn’t the responsibility fall somewhere between the offending product and Google itself? In practice it’s structured pretty much like a phishing attempt.

Notably some model providers explicitly allow that very flow, while others will ban you without notice.

[n8m8]

If the "3rd party product" is you selfhosting FOSS, then that's you (OpenClaw users)

[crawshaw]

The concern is not losing access to some new IDE for operating outside the terms of service. The concern is when you lose access to the IDE, you also lose access to your 20 year old Gmail account.

A general problem for Google products is that everything is mixed together.

[BoredPositron]

But that's not what happened.

[zarzavat]

Okay but they were paying customers paying $$$ for the service. Banning your customers without prior warning is not right, however sketchy their behaviour might appear. Even if it's obvious to Google that there's a difference between a Gemini API key and an Antigravity API key, it's not necessarily obvious to others.

The correct and sane thing to do is to send them an email, with at most a 24 hour suspension. If they keep doing it despite being warned then by all means fire them.

[johnebgd]

It’s be great if Google just revoked antigravity access if terms were violated. No need to disable the entire account.

[LiamPowell]

> just revoked antigravity access

That's exactly what they did, plus Gemini CLI and Code Assist, which are the same product in different formats.

[NewsaHackO]

No Google account has been banned for this. People just keep spreading this lie because no one agrees that they have the right to steal the OAuth token.

[TGower]

Only Antigravity and Gemini access was banned, not email or other google account stuff.

[Aurornis]

How do so many people think this happened? All of the articles I’ve read have been clear that it did not happen. Yet it’s all over the comments here. Why?

[dangus]

I’ll go further: there should be laws addressing account consolidation. Getting banned from an Apple or Google account is an incredibly wide blast radius. It would be like being banned from buying Unilever or Nestle food from your grocery store.

[jamesnorden]

>It's great that Google is giving these users a second chance.

I hope this is sarcasm. A permaban as the first action is never a good idea.

[NicuCalcea]

When's the last time you read the ToS of a service you signed up for?

[sowbug]

This would be a great job for an AI agent. Even better if a few million such agents collectively refused to agree to unconscionable terms.

[theturtletalks]

They were banning people and those people couldn’t even cancel their subscription. That’s a rookie mistake and you expect the same company to have a flawless ban system?

[sneak]

Telling your users they can't use certain software to access your HTTP API is exactly the same as telling people they can't use certain browsers to load https://google.com.

[982307932084]

"Hey Gemini, write a short blurb casting our capriciousness in a good light."