[hsaliak]

The Gemini-CLI situation is poor. They did not communicate that AI Pro or AI Ultra accounts cannot be used with this API broadly earlier. I specifically remember searching for this info. Seeing this made me wonder if I had missed it. Turns out it was added to the TOS 2 days ago - diff https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/pull/20488/chang.... I'd be happy to stand corrected here.

Anti Gravity I understand, they are subsidizing to promote a general IDE, but I dont understand constraining the generative AI backend that Gemini CLI hits.

Finally, it's unclear what's allowed and what's not if I purchase the API access from google cloud here https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/overvi...

The Apache License of this product at this point is rich. Just make it closed source and close the API reference. Why have it out there?

[tempest_]

I have a Code Assist Standard license to evaluate gemini-cli (and the new models)

To this day I cannot coax the gemini-cli to allow me to use the models they claim you have access to. Enabled all the preview stuff in cloud etc etc.

Still I mostly get 2.5 and rarely get 3 or 3.1 offered.

The gemini-cli repo is a shit show.

I can seem to access the new models using opencode, but am 429 rate limited almost immediately such that its like 5 minutes between calls.

[hsaliak]

It takes your query, computes the complexity of the request, and tries to route it to the appropriate model. There is a /manual command i think, to pick the right model.

They mask the 429s well in Gemini-Cli - if an endpoint is rate limited, they try another, or route to another model, etc to keep service availability up.

Your experience on the 429s is consistent with mine - the 429s is the first thing they need to fix. Fix that and they have a solid model at a good price point.

I use my own coding agent (https://github.com/hsaliak/std_slop) and not being able to bring my (now cancelled) AI account with Google to it is a bummer.

I'd still use it with the Code Assist Standard license if the google cloud API subscription allows for it but I have no clarification.