[ActorNightly]

I mean does it matter?

At this point, lines have been drawn. In conservative land, everything conservative is good, everything liberal is bad. So the only sane position to take is the complete opposite.

For example, if you see someone self proclaimed liberal being critical of liberals, that person is probably a conservative or its a conservative bot.

[fortzi]

Seems like you’re describing political polarization. Just on one side though.. Why?

[ActorNightly]

Im saying political polarization needs to happen on the liberal side because its about 8 years behind conservatives on that front. When Trump showed up, no matter how much other conservatives disagreed with him - everyone got behind in rank and file. Meanwhile, the left purity checks each other all the time.

So if you are a democrat, and you want to make change, you need to behave exactly like conservatives do. Elections are decided by vibes, he who can attract the biggest social following through whatever means, wins.

[spaghetdefects]

That's not totally true when it comes to Zionism though. Much of the left and the right are united against Zionism. It's the older center liberals and right that are united in being pro-Zionism.

[ActorNightly]

I dunno if you are a bot, but in case you are not, I hope you realize that Palestine stuff is basically controlled opposition. All the extreme left wing people that happen to be so pro Palestine are basically all sponsored by right wing to peddle propaganda and normalize stuff like Oct 7 so that the right can point to them and be like "look the liberals are crazy".

Its a propaganda machine that works very well to target the very impressionable people out there. I mean, students are going to protests and destroying their futures by getting arrested to show support of Palestinians, who would absolutely stone them to death if they found out that any of them smoked weed, and even more so for the lbgtq students for simply being gay.

So really, Israel vs Palestine shouldn't be an issue at all if you believe in actual change.

[spaghetdefects]

Not sure why this is getting downvoted, it's simply a factual statement. It's also backed up by polling that came out yesterday: https://apnews.com/article/poll-gallup-americans-israel-pale...

[UltraSane]

Please define "Zionism"

[nailer]

Yes both the far left and far right believe that Jews aren’t allowed to live in their own homeland, because they are racist.