[sfblah]

I generally agree that it's difficult and counterproductive to try to eliminate talented programmers who put together the core of systems and set up the patterns that things like LLMs can emulate.

But, the modal programmer at this point is some person who attended a front-end coding bootcamp for a few months and basically just knows how to chain together CSS selectors and React components. I do think these people are in big trouble.

So, while the core, say, 10% of people I think should remain in the system. This 90% periphery of pretty bad programmers will probably need to move on to other jobs.

[iugtmkbdfil834]

Oh:D I have a feeling that the bad programmers won't move anywhere. There is one reason for it. Code part is probably the smallest piece while most of the stuff is in getting actual business requirements that worth a lick.

[elzbardico]

The best engineers do something besides "getting" requirements. They usually are able to re-interpret, contextualize and evolve them.

Surprisingly, a lot of times programmers are better bring in business experience from other organizations that the business people at the current one don't possess.

[getnormality]

So are you saying that bad programmers play a dual role of attending meetings to get business requirements, in a way that AI cannot do?

[designerarvid]

During the 90’s economic crisis all drafters drawing building blueprints by hand disappeared from the Swedish construction industry. Engineers started using CAD instead

Just one example of how this has happened again and again.