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atmosx | 1 day ago

Cheap or not doesn’t matter.

Sir Winston Churchill supposedly asked Lady Astor whether she would sleep with him for five million pounds. She said she supposed she would. Then he asked whether she would sleep with him for only five pounds. She answered,"What do you think I am?" His response was, "We've already established that; we're merely haggling over price."- Marcus Felson, Crime and Everyday Life, Second Edition, 1998

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knollimar|1 day ago

I think it does matter and this quote is always flaunted like it's some deep insight but it intentionally ignored nuance. An amount you can comfortably retire on is way different than $5.

We love to pretend humans have unflinching morals but they don't

sph|1 day ago

On the other hand, immoral people would try to convince you that anybody would kill their own mother for the right price.

roryirvine|18 hours ago

Nancy Astor already had access to more than enough money to keep herself in unimaginable luxury for the rest of her life. She was substantially more wealthy than Churchill (by a factor of many thousands).

The nuance you're looking for didn't exist.

Gud|21 hours ago

I believe the problem is making sex about morality.

TacticalCoder|1 day ago

> I think it does matter and this quote is always flaunted like it's some deep insight but it intentionally ignored nuance

There are people that wouldn't do it no matter the amount. Not for billions. Not for a trillion. And that's why no matter how rich the other party, there are people to whom they simply aren't rich enough.

"No" is the most powerful word in the dictionary. And when some people say no, they really mean no. And no amount of money can change that.

And most filthy, corrupt, bribed politicians and corrupt public servants out there know that fully well: they feel filthy and miserable because they know there are people out there with moral and ethics.

Additionally, there are people who honestly really don't give a fuck about money (it's not my case): so they'll say no not because of particularly high moral or high ethics, they'll say no just because they enjoy their simple life.

Honestly it's a sign of low moral and low ethics to believe that anyone can be bought out and that it's just about the amount.

DANmode|1 day ago

“We” also love to pretend that every, (or even most), humans who could break laws, or common moral boundaries in order to cash out actually do that.

I think that’s a fallacy, too.