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tejohnso | 1 day ago

There would likely be millions of Americans celebrating the murder of their current president, should that happen. It doesn't mean it's reasonable, right, just, or civilized, nor would it indicate that it was a unanimously supported action.

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TulliusCicero|1 day ago

But in the case of an actual dictator who murdered thousands of protestors it is reasonable, right, just, and civilized.

Shed no tears for the deaths of tyrants. They would happily see you and any other threat to their illegitimate power put six feet under.

stavros|1 day ago

I can feel OK about Khamenei dying and still worry about what it means that the US can just murder anyone in the world just because.

LastTrain|1 day ago

Yes our president has only needlessly murdered two innocent US citizens so far. As he has told us countless times, he would like to be a dictator.

avoutos|1 day ago

Well, there are other things you can look at. For one, Khamenei was dictator of a regime that abducts women and recently murdered 10s of thousands of protesters in the streets. I'd reckon most, including Iranians, would not judge the killing of such an individual immoral, unjust or uncivilized.

underlipton|1 day ago

I don't know whether I'm "kidding" or not, but I might as well post what immediately came to mind as I read this:

Sandra Bland et al.

ICE detainments

The excess 20k (as far as absolute numbers go) road fatalities in the US versus Iran.

And the excess I-have-no-idea-how-many-k who died under Trump's bungled COVID response (and who are going to die from Biden's bungled rail strike response)(and who died under Obama's failed healthcare half-measure)(and who died under Bush's bungled Katrina response and because of his pre-9/11 mismanagement).

Yes, yes, per-capita and all that. I'm not really making a rational argument here, just appealing to the truthiness of noticing that America has its own way of killing its citizens.

throwawayheui57|1 day ago

They threw the justice and civility when they murdered people on the street. That ship has sailed and the party who's responsible for this escalation is the government.

joshstrange|1 day ago

It’s sad that I can’t be sure which government you are talking about right now, Iran or the USA.

I’m aware the scale of “murdered people on the street” is stark and so you are almost certainly talking about Iran but what ICE is doing (and the clear extrapolation) fits your comment IMHO.

bambax|1 day ago

Not just Americans.

jatari|1 day ago

The entire continent of europe would be celebrating.

danielxt|1 day ago

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cameldrv|1 day ago

Perhaps, but there would be tens/hundreds of millions of people like me who didn't vote for Trump and don't like him, but would be absolutely enraged beyond perhaps anything in this country's history if another country blew up the White House and he was killed.

tastyface|1 day ago

Well, I imagine there are a lot of people like that in Iran right now.

anon291|1 day ago

Most Americans would. No fan of Trump but he is the duly elected president of the United States and has not done anything particularly egregious.

worldsavior|1 day ago

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ashivkum|1 day ago

Your worldview is not an appropriate substitute for objective reality :)

Natfan|1 day ago

renee goode, alex pretti

stavros|1 day ago

Wait, Trump didn't kill any US citizen? Have we been watching the same news?

thisislife2|1 day ago

Exactly. This is just western media trying to project some morality to what was an internationally illegal act ... (and perhaps some in the media hoping against hope this publicity would please the dear, glorious leaders of Israel and the US to end the war).

UltraSane|1 day ago

International Law doesn't really exist.

flyinglizard|1 day ago

International law being thrown around a lot. Seems like everyone is an int’l law expert, even though it’s quite an exotic speciality.

So please go ahead and tell me, where does International Law prohibit a state that’s at war with another to assassinate its head of state?