[nickysielicki]

Did you guys really think that the jurisprudential issues that became endemic after 9/11 suddenly disappeared because we discovered LLMs?

Let’s put pressure on our government to fix the FISA issues. Let’s reign in the executive branch. But let’s do it through voting. Let’s not give up on our system of government because we have new shiny technology.

You were naive if you thought developing new technologies was the solution to our government problems. You’re wrong to support anyone leveraging their control over new technology as a potential solution or weapon of the weak against those governmental issues.

That is not how you effect change in a democracy.

[roughly]

And, to be clear, the way you affect change in democracy is coalition building, listening to others, supporting your allies in their aims, and in turn having them support you, even when you don’t fully agree or understand. There’s no magic wand, none of us are right, there’s no big picture, just a bunch of people working together.

[_heimdall]

While I agree that we should be voting in people who will respect the power and authority they're given, I can't imagine we will vote away all these problems.

We would need to vote in a president and 60%+ into congress that is willing to throw away their own power and authority. I just don't see that happening, especially not in a political system so corrupted already.

[greycol]

The US needs a organization doing the equivalent of the Nation Popular Vote Interstate Compact but for candidates and for fixing the US voting system. Get running politicians to sign up for if 60% of you are in office you'll table and vote for a specific already spelled out constitutional reform for more representative voting.

The goal being more than two parties in government so that democrats and republicans can fracture into more functional bodies (MAGA, RINOs, neo-liberal, progressive etc) and people can vote closer to their issues/beliefs and that multiple parties mean 1 party isn't running rushod over the other.

[Nevermark]

> But let’s do it through voting.

You don't get a successful vote without a tremendous amount of coordination and activism preceding it.

Laws that constrain government from bad things are very difficult things to get the government to pass.

In the meantime, using completely legal civil power to push back on legally allowed harms seems beyond sensible.

But if you just vote and it works without all that, please let us know how you did it!

[pjc50]

Take a step back: Americans voted for this. They want unaccountable police and courts for the Dirty Harry legal system: maximum indiscriminate violence against those designated as criminals.

[_heimdall]

I've never seen this on a ballot and, maybe with the exclusion of Trump, never heard a candidate campaign on anything similar.

You probably could make the case that Trump did campaign on it so I'll grant that, but this problem started well before he was even firing people on TV.