[psychoslave]

I don't know, I started using a Mac only 3 years ago when joining my current job. The UX always felt so wrong on every matter to me. I don't get where the reputation came from, maybe from an era that was already only mere memory when I started to use it.

I would pick a default bare gnome 3 agaisnt any Mac os version UX without any hesitation.

With a lot of tools from third parties, it puts back the level to supportable, but that's the highest satisfaction level it ever procured to me. Rectangle and some alternative window switcher plus brew are the minimum to survive without going crazy after 2 minutes of exposition. Having finder always present in window switcher and no way to close/hide it? What a monstrosity!

I'm still looking for a working solution to select and paste with middle click.

Glad I don't have to use it out of work.

[thunky]

> I would pick a default bare gnome 3 agaisnt any Mac os version UX without any hesitation.

Yeah it's a head scratcher for me too.

So many devs only want to work on a Mac yet they build software that runs on NOT Mac. Then they have to jump through hoops like architecture mismatch and docker having to run a Linux vm anyway.

[matthewmc3]

Tahoe will be gone in 7 months when macOS 27 comes out. Meanwhile we've been talking about ads in the Windows 11 start bar since 2021 and Gnome 3's Gnaval gazing since who knows when?

Apple tries something weird every now and then and then a year later we get something different. Yes, Tahoe was a giant miss, but I'd wager macOS is not what really attracts devs to Apple anyway - it's the hardware that makes Macs such an appealing dev machine. Large glass trackpads with incredible touch controls, aluminum bodies, long lasting batteries, cool and quiet, great screens, years of support - the list goes on.

Snapdragon is only just now finally taking off in the Windows/Linux space, so the landscape could finally change here soon, but for now anyone who's gone ARM is not looking to ever go back to x64 hardware - at least for development (gaming is another convo).

[rdtsc]

I prefer Linux as well just to get the same tools and architecture like you said. But at work everything corporate is configured for mac by default. So running Linux is a battle to having to keep up with VPN and other stuff they have.

[wolvoleo]

For me KDE, I can't deal with gnome especially 3. But yeah moving to KDE from Mac was a breath of fresh air. Finally options again to configure my computer the way I want it.

[lapcat]

> I don't get where the reputation came from, maybe from an era that was already only mere memory when I started to use it.

Peak Mac design was 20 years ago, before iPhone. That was where the reputation came from.

Since iPhone became Apple's darling, and especially since Steve Jobs died, the Mac UI has been systematically wrecked, year by year. iPhone design has also been systematically wrecked since Jobs died. Tim Cook clearly had no idea what he was doing when he put hardware designer Jony Ive in charge of software with iOS 7, something that Jobs never did with Ive.

[wpm]

Alt-tab is an app switcher, not a window switcher, and Finder is always running, hence, it appears in alt-tab