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aduty | 10 hours ago

You forgot the part where they charge you to get rid of the ads but then the ads come back anyway so you're paying to be the product.

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matheusmoreira|7 hours ago

Paying to get rid of ads is paying for the privilege of doing their market segmentation for them. It's paying to segment oneself into the upper echelons of the market. People who pay to avoid ads have a lot of disposable income, the value of their attention increases.

I wish uBlock Origin would incorporate AI features too. It could automatically detect brand names and product placement and blank it all out. Works on images and video. Augmented reality glasses with uBlock Origin would be life changing.

marssaxman|7 hours ago

I wish we could use AI to solve captchas for us. Perhaps I should "vibe-code" such a browser plugin.

delaminator|7 hours ago

> I wish uBlock Origin would incorporate AI features too. It could automatically detect brand names and product placement and blank it all out.

that is a pretty good idea

back in the day I had an adblocker which replaced the banners with your own pictures.

Scoundreller|5 hours ago

> Paying to get rid of ads is paying for the privilege of doing their market segmentation for them.

My local newspaper used to be wide-open. I happily subscribed but never logged in.

Then they launched a paywall, so I unsubscribed. I didn't want to be a part of their logged-in paid premium user dragnet.

The phone-call to cancel was a bit confusing for the CSR.

"May I ask why are you cancelling?"

Me: "Oh, because of the paywall"

CSR: "Oh, that's just a technical issue, we can help you with that"

Me: "Nono, you don't understand, I'm cancelling because there is _a_ paywall"

I doubt my "reason for cancelling" got coded correctly.

smilespray|10 hours ago

YouTube Premium Lite!

You know, with ads. That you pay to watch.

sidewndr46|9 hours ago

Amazon prime! A paid service with advertisements for the original content no one wants to watch.

1over137|8 hours ago

I never understood this with cable TV either. You could use an antenna and watch TV over the air (with ads) or you could pay for cable and still watch ads!

riddley|8 hours ago

No Lite! about it. I've twice unsubbed from YTP because they started showing me ads. Never again.

nickk81|10 hours ago

This will happen! (difficult to show in a quick demo that you view for like 10 seconds)

neves|7 hours ago

Also forgot the part where they start to disguise that an ad is really an ad. The ad is just melted in the content.

api|10 hours ago

I cancel when things do this.

Paid, or ads. Paid with ads -> cancel immediately.

SecretDreams|10 hours ago

Yes, this is the silicon valley special. They get us to pay for a sub. Then they get us to pay for an ad free sub. Then the ads come anywho lol.

WarmWash|9 hours ago

This take is prevalent but not really true.

You can subsidize the cost of a full subscription by having ads.

I know that society at large is mostly hopeless, but here on HN we generally have the mental firepower to comprehend "It's a sliding payment scale from no ads to all ads"

Edit: You guys are welcome to be upset by this, but if you think it's wrong, please correct me. Ideally without using the one counter example of cable TV in the 90's. Monopolies bring bad behaviors.

smallmancontrov|9 hours ago

No, if a company gets enough leverage the top plan will demand both payment and ads. We've seen it before and we'll see it again.