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Pentagon Adopts Incel-Speak

47 points| zabzonk | 2 days ago |theguardian.com

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dwroberts|2 days ago

They are using this style of speech, because it serves their aims of recruiting young people to go fight and die in stupid conflicts like this

YZF|2 days ago

TIL: “involuntarily celibate”

I've heard the word incel used all over but didn't know where it came from. I did have some idea of what it meant ofcourse.

People are so divided into these echo chambers they make up their own languages. Soon the different groups won't even be able to communicate with each other.

jl6|1 day ago

Self-sorting into echo chambers has definitely already happened and discourse is definitely already hampered by lack of consensus on what words mean.

actionfromafar|2 days ago

I think that's the case already. Did you know Trump is the imperfect vessel of God?

That means everything, no matter what happens, is fine. Because if Trump is found to be ever-more imperfect, it's OK. Because vessel of God part.

zabzonk|1 day ago

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jl6|1 day ago

> “You’re hitting yourself in the face with a hammer. That feels very manly. It’s very strong,” Walker says.

Is this an actual thing that kids do or just a moral panic because some loon did it once for clicks?

rasur|2 days ago

It's annoying that they class themselves as "Involuntary" Celibates, because as far as I can tell the "in" part of "Involuntary" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Volcels is way more accurate.

jfengel|19 hours ago

Yes, that.

They are convinced that women are terrible people who deny them sex for no reason. Not surprisingly, women don't want to have sex with men who hate them.

Breaking out of that loop is nigh-on impossible. It's hard to mask that belief, so even if they try, women get a bad feeling about them. They don't feel safe, and women are extremely vulnerable during sex; women don't have sex when there's any chance you might hurt them.

Once they've hooked up with other incels, they spend their time goading each other into higher levels of hatred for women, making it even harder for them to find a woman who will demonstrate what actual human women are like.

It is both simple and incredibly difficult to just accept that women are people. If you can do that -- or even fake it -- you can find out how to actually enjoy women as people, and not just the guardians of sex.

assbuttbuttass|2 days ago

The incels have grown up and now work at the Pentagon

shmeeed|2 days ago

They've become old enough to work at the Pentagon. Grown up they have not.

simianwords|2 days ago

I believe incels and looksmaxxing are different with some overlap so I don't know why guardian is conflating the two of them.

But I think there's a lot of truth in what these two communities say. The reason their slang catches on is because they attach to words what people subconsciously believe anyway.

postflopclarity|2 days ago

"what people subconciously believe" != "lot of truth"

the State should not be boosting the rhetoric of what mostly amounts to a bunch of hateful losers blaming their problems on women.