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sethev | 1 day ago

And gain experience

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somenameforme|1 day ago

In every field where competence can be objectively measured, experience does not endlessly correlate with competence. There's always a growth phase but then there's a bell curve of age vs competence, that reaches a peak and then there's a constant decline from there. So for instance chess is primarily a mental game, yet the decline comes as early as one's mid thirties for world class players.

I'm fully willing to accept that for a field where scenarios are fuzzier and intuition more important, it may well be that peak on the bell curve comes somewhat later. But I think it's essentially inconceivable that one is near, or even remotely near, their peak, in their 80s, in anything.

sethev|1 day ago

>There's always a growth phase but then there's a bell curve of age vs competence

A bell curve tracks the distribution of a single random variable. You're mixing statistical metaphors.

acdha|1 day ago

That’s true, but it’s not always good—Americans have stark examples of the risks of octogenarian leaders whose experience leads them astray by discounting how much the world has changed since they were young.

I think of mental faculties and experience as two separate overlapping curves where there’s a sweet spot in the middle where both are high but either one being low can become a big problem.

They also just don’t have the same energy they used to so even if they have a good idea they’ll be less effective at motivating people to embrace it, and the younger people behind them are going to be acting with more thought to succession politics.

foldr|1 day ago

Biden's surely a poster child for the value of experience and connections in the Presidency. Whatever you think of him (and I would certainly agree that he should never have considered a second term), he was quite successful in furthering his agenda while in office.

simmerup|1 day ago

But dude was 86, how many people in nursing homes would you trust to run a country?

dotancohen|1 day ago

Probably one in a thousand.

But as one whom the Ayatollah has sworn to eliminate, I can still state that man was sharp and brilliant and extremely well spoken. His worldview was internally consistent. He had vision and experience and knew how to motivate people. He was a one in ten million leader.

I give him that praise and more, even recognising that his stated mission was to exterminate myself and my children.

leonvoss|1 day ago

And as we can see with Biden and Trump, 86 is past the the optimal compromise between experience and cognition.