top | item 47207580

Foods destroying rainforests, in one simple chart

22 points| stared | 14 hours ago |vox.com

32 comments

order

unfitted2545|12 hours ago

It's also worth keeping in mind whilst soy is the 3rd highest, 80% goes to livestock.

DauntingPear7|11 hours ago

People when talking about plant based/better-for-the-planet alternatives often don’t discuss the fact that they’re usually more expensive per unit

conception|9 hours ago

Perhaps for highly processed items. But peas and beans are cheaper than beef.

triceratops|4 hours ago

Don't eat "alternatives". Eat real food that doesn't have meat. I'm not even a vegetarian. Just clear-eyed about diets, cuisines, and culture.

mikestew|13 hours ago

Did my ad blocker somehow block the “one simple chart”? Because I don’t see a chart in TFA.

SapporoChris|12 hours ago

I get a square with "This content isn't visible due to your cookie preferences. To load this content, click the Allow button below to opt in to "Social Media & Embedded Content" cookies. These cookies are set and controlled by the third party sources from which the embedded content originates." and the button of course.

ticulatedspline|12 hours ago

Yep, I use just vanilla no-script. No chart. unblocked half a dozen domains or more and never found the chart. No idea where the content is actually loaded from.

Clamchop|12 hours ago

Running uBO here and I see a chart.

nielsbot|13 hours ago

It’s beef.

> Beef caused at least 4 times more deforestation than any other food in the last two decades

colechristensen|13 hours ago

This is what we need tariffs for. And it could probably get broad support for both supporting domestic cattle production AND environmental concern.

DANmode|11 hours ago

My beef doesn’t come from cattle in a rainforest - or even out of state.

If yours does: do something about it.

vivzkestrel|13 hours ago

what happened to beyond meat, impossible foods and all those other companies that a few years ago were planning to replace beef with plant friendly alternatives? why dont we hear about them anymore?

mvid|11 hours ago

It is extremely difficult to justify fake beef that costs more than real beef. Maybe for a niche group who care about the ethics of it, but they aren’t enough to support a market. Once fake beef costs 80% or less than real beef, it could get some traction

littlexsparkee|10 hours ago

since folks are lukewarm on no-meat options, they are working on blends which in aggregate would reduce meat consumption without the tough odds of converting meat-eaters

colechristensen|13 hours ago

After a surge in popularity sales have declined steeply based on consumer demand.

Some people want hyper-realistic fake ground beef, etc. but not everyone, not all that many it turns out.

People who want to be vegetarian are also people who don't want to eat ultraprocessed food.

Authenticity is big with people. If I were to go vegetarian I'd want to eat... vegetables.

mediumsmart|8 hours ago

Found the chart - not disappointed:

This content isn't visible due to your cookie preferences. To load this content, click the Allow button below to opt in to "Social Media & Embedded Content" cookies. These cookies are set and controlled by the third party sources from which the embedded content originates. Allow View and Manage all cookie consent preferences

DANmode|11 hours ago

Everything on the chart except maybe beef and bananas can be done without (and probably should).

triceratops|10 hours ago

You want people to give up corn and rice before beef and bananas?

Moreover beef appears on that chart twice: once as beef and again as soybeans, which are grown to feed livestock.

robthebrew|13 hours ago

not a single chart in sight on that site.