[alephnerd]

Yeah no. Almost all companies I've chatted with - from MSPs to C-Suite of F10s - expect and demand humans-in-the-loop. I'm also on a couple boards and we've aligned on the same expectation as well.

Look, AI/ML and especially LLMs are powerful, but there does remain a degree of instability and non-determinism which will require human intervention to remediate.

That said, there is a lot of dev work in companies that is a cost-center, and those are the portions that will start getting vibe coded and deployed in product with little-to-no oversight (eg. a support portal for SMBs at an enterprise), but the equivalent feature would have already been an afterthought even without LLMs and probably given to a couple SWEs we'd be fine re-orging in a quarter anyhow.

[gedy]

Yes just not driven or owned by engineers. That's what I'm seeing from company and a few peer's companies.

> but there does remain a degree of instability and non-determinism which will require human intervention to remediate.

I agree.

[alephnerd]

> Yes just not driven or owned by engineers. That's what I'm seeing from company and a few peer's companies

I mean, it depends on the feature/product and how critical it is to the health of the business.

Like I mentioned in my edited comment, there is a lot of dev work in companies that is a cost-center, and those are the portions that will start getting vibe coded and deployed in product with little-to-no oversight (eg. a support portal for SMBs at an enterprise), but the equivalent feature would have already been an afterthought even without LLMs and probably given to a couple SWEs we'd be fine re-orging in a quarter anyhow because we cannot justify spending $500K-750K a year (the backend cost of 3 FT SWEs or Contractors for a company) on a customer form which nets $0 in revenue and is not directly tied with pipeline generation.