[DiabloD3]

Yes, its a nightmare because Android is becoming more and more like iOS: anything that the user used to be able to do... they can no longer do.

Android phone manufacturers want $1200 for something that is a toy, just like the Apple iToys.

Nobody wants those, and nobody wants this. Google needs to get out of the business and let the FOSS community handle it.

[mikestew]

Nobody wants those, and nobody wants this.

Just because you don’t want it doesn’t mean <checks notes…> a billion or so people don’t want an iPhone. Or rather, a phone they don’t have to dick with straight out of the box.

OTOH, I don’t really even know what you’re on about. Android is a nightmare because…it’s like iOS, which is “take phone out of box, restore from backup, sorted”? That doesn’t even make any sense, especially in light of what TFA describes.

[mhitza]

For many people around my area, iPhones are a status symbol choice. Not a coherent or direct software+ecosystem choice.

I've seen arguments around chosing iPhone for their camera. But the vast majority that is tech iliterate stops around that argument.

[fn-mote]

> Android is becoming more and more like iOS: anything that the user used to be able to do... they can no longer do

The article shows this is not true, if you know the similar process for iOS.

The article could be compared to the iPhone setup process. There are some preferences to uncheck, but there is no third party spying software on an iPhone when it arrives. Contrast to Samsung.

[latexr]

That type of rhetoric won’t get you what you want. Don’t dismiss something just because you don’t like it.

iOS devices are not toys, and even if they were there is value in toys, and even if there weren’t it is provably false that “nobody wants those”.

Furthermore, if Google dropped Android it is misguided to believe “the FOSS community” would handle it and everything would be roses. What you’d have then are a couple of hardware vendors (like Samsung) publishing their own forks and dozens of different incompatible open-source versions that would get no traction.

[bigyabai]

> iOS devices are not toys

iOS devices are. My iPad is the most useless piece of technology I own, calling it a "computer" is an insult to the actual computers I own. It's a toy, and not even a fun toy compared to my Nintendo Switch.

Android handles serious workloads fine, macOS takes software seriously. iOS is the only operating system that treats gatchapon as the pinnacle of high-performance workloads.