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cmckn | 8 hours ago

To be fair, setting up a new iPhone (without restoring from backup) is a pretty long-winded process these days. You have to make about 50 decisions on various features, tap through numerous info screens, set up Face ID, Apple Pay, voice recognition, etc. etc. It feels like every team at Apple wants something in the onboarding flow.

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Tzk|10 minutes ago

actually you can skip most of these, but get reduced functionality in return. You can skip faceID/touchID, unlock code, appleID. You can’t skip terms, some customization options and, data collection and privacy settings.

In theory you can use iPhone and iPad without apple account - basically as dumb phone. But of course you won’t get AppStore access.

nomel|8 hours ago

All of those security related screens you listed is why I like Apple: security related things are local to secure enclave, not in cloud.

dangus|5 hours ago

And Apple sometimes re-asks you with minor point releases a selection of those questions even though you’ve already answered.