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orliesaurus | 18 hours ago

Someone on Austin's subreddit said the following and I think it's the correct take/lens:

> I might get downvoted for expressing my feelings but whatever. I hate seeing my coworkers being ridiculed for simply doing the right thing and moving on with their work. I’ve been abused and called an idiot on here for stating our reality. I’m a paramedic. We will NOT attempt to move or hit a vehicle, person, or object to go to a call or transport a patient. Especially if there’s an option for an alternate route. People cut us off, don’t move, flick us off, and generally don’t regard us even with our lights and sirens on. Is it frustrating? Absolutely. Do we like it? Hell no. But getting in trouble or under investigation for a collision or possibly causing unnecessary harm simply isn’t worth it. I know this was high profile, tragic, and absolutely dire. But you have to remember, we live this everyday and this is not the first time a vehicle, object, or person has gotten in this paramedic or EMTs way and it won’t be the last. Don’t even get me started on the amount of verbal abuse and assaults we deal with. This is a very hard job and we are under constant scrutiny but I promise you we try and do our very best every day. So please do us a favor next time you see us out on the streets and give us some grace.

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wongarsu|17 hours ago

He makes an excellent job describing all lots of systematic issues here

- a collision causes an investigation that is "not worth it"

- even in this case that was "high profile, tragic, and absolutely dire"

- vehicles, objects, or people get in paramedics' or EMTs' way on a daily basis, apparently without consequences

- EMTs are subject to high levels of verbal abuse and assaults, apparently without consequences

- yet they are the ones under constant scrutiny

Now don't get me wrong, I am not against oversight. But compare this with American cops, who seem authorized to do far more damage to vehicles and people for often far less immediate benefit, have much laxer oversight, and do not have to endure abuse without recourse (well, technically they do have to do that, but it's not advisable to test this)

alwaysdoit|17 hours ago

Mostly agree, but choosing not to risk a new collision in order to maybe get there slightly faster (what if you damage the ambulance and are unable to continue?) to maybe help someone does seem like the right call

jrnichols|15 hours ago

As another paramedic that has worked in Texas, they are absolutely correct.

What we lack in EMS is the same qualified immunity that law enforcement continues to have.

snickerbockers|14 hours ago

I think the most important problem here is that this is an ambulance not a monster truck. It never ceases to amaze me how people on this site will always insist that the onus should be on society to deal the fallout from silicon valley's poorly-tested and poorly-designed bullshit. In a truly just world we'd be able to charge Google's leadership as an accessory to homicide for this.

steve-atx-7600|14 hours ago

Exactly. The wamyo behavior looks fucking nuts. It makes no sense for an ambulance to get damaged or hurt someone on the way to a call.