[lurk2]

> Would the citizens of a sovereign nation being forced to violate their Constitution by Putin and Trump be a “violation of human dignity” too?

If Ukraine was worth defending they would have no trouble finding men willing to die to defend it. It’s one of the most corrupt countries in the Western world, its women are being allowed to flee so that they can prostitute themselves to Arabs and Europeans, and it hasn’t had an election in 7 years. Zelensky attempted to take control of the country’s anticorruption bureau in July of 2025: “Many suggest the attempted purges are payback for NABU pursuing charges of illicit enrichment and abuse of office against former deputy prime minister Oleksiy Chernyshov, a key ally for the Office of the President.”[1] In November of 2025, Timur Mindich, a former business partner and close friend of Zelensky, fled to Israel after being accused of orchestrating a kickback operation in cooperation with ministers of Zelensky’s own government. [2][3].

You have the opportunity to go die for these people right now. An increasing number of men in Ukraine have decided they would prefer not to.

[1] - https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-r...

[2] - https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelensky-associate-at-crux-of-...

[3] - https://www.uawire.org/ukraine-s-anti-corruption-bureau-to-s...

[ceejayoz]

Well, another dodge. I tried; it's a yes/no question.

> If Ukraine was worth defending they would have no trouble finding men willing to die to defend it.

So defeating the Nazis wasn't worth doing, because we had to draft to accomplish it?

> its women are being allowed to flee

Wouldn't the alternative be "A violation of human dignity"? Forced confinement in a war zone? You really should make up your mind here.