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tisme | 13 years ago

Incredible how bad a loser Apple is. If you're ordered to do something like this make it plain that you got the message.

So: Above the fold, in a font no lighter or smaller than the rest of the page. No tricks or gimmicks (resizing the ipad mini image? Popup links??) to hide the text.

All they're doing is to risk yet another do-over which will hit them in the middle of Christmas shopping.

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shinratdr|13 years ago

> All they're doing is to risk yet another do-over which will hit them in the middle of Christmas shopping.

That implies that anyone normal doing Christmas shopping on Apple.com cares about this even slightly, which IMO is quite a stretch.

People can speculate endlessly about how bad this will make Apple look, but I can tell you right now this isn't the patent judgement. This story hasn't really broken into mainstream. The only people who noticed this are tech news readers, and they also won't be swayed by something like this.

I agree that Apple's being fairly petty about this, but I don't agree that it will affect them negatively in any quantifiable way. I can't picture the person who would know and care about this, and have it affect their purchasing decision.

tisme|13 years ago

> I can't picture the person who would know and care about this, and have it affect their purchasing decision.

It affects mine. That's only one data point and I'm sure there are millions who it won't affect.

mtgx|13 years ago

They even made the iPad mini bigger, so people can't notice the statement at the bottom of the page:

http://i.imgur.com/MRmAx.jpg

AYBABTME|13 years ago

I was curious about this and verified all the other national versions. Across all the versions displaying the iPad on their front page, the US version is the ONLY version I have found that doesn't scale the iPad automatically.

6ren|13 years ago

It dynamically enlarges, so the statement is always below the fold, no matter your screen size. That's why it aligns so nicely. To be fair, maybe they did they before too. But if they changed it just to hide this clear statement they've been ordered to make...

BTW: The statement text is verbatim what the court suggested in http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html (para 87)

The judgement says it's a final determination which I assume means it can't be appealed. But I don't get that impression from the statement, I guess because I'm not familiar with the appeals hierarchy of the EU. It seems the UK Court of Appeal superior to German courts.

iamben|13 years ago

As noted below, the iPad resizes so it's always off the screen...

dsirijus|13 years ago

Thank you for the illustration, it makes it pretty obvious.

kzrdude|13 years ago

Hitting fullscreen in firefox is hilarious, watch the IPad grow to cover it up. :-)

michaelfeathers|13 years ago

Another difference. Before the statement link was only on the UK site.

Zoophy|13 years ago

They even added a new Javascript file for that. Responsive webdesign, right?!

http://images.apple.com/v/home/n/scripts/hero_resize.js

0xABADC0DA|13 years ago

The only actual proper thing in this whole affair was Apple's lawsuit. As Samsung was copying them right down to the shape of the charger Apple felt they had a real case. They lost, but disputes are supposed to be settled in court when the parties can't come to an understanding.

- Samsung slavishly copying Apple's designs

- The Judge issuing a order designed to embarrass Apple

- Apple posting a snarky letter of the law notice

- Hacker News posters like in this thread

...these things are childish and immature. Grow up.

sbuk|13 years ago

This is arguably the most sensible post I have read in this whole sorry debacle. Well said.