My understanding is you can't just call and order up certain sophisticated equipment like an EUV machine. I thought there were record backlogs at the moment, and the supply chain to manufacture them can't quickly scale.
Any discussion how that might be addressed? Take a number and see you in a few years?
More lies from Musk & co. If we had functional enforcement against white-collar crimes, he would be out of the picture for all the previous lies he has sold to investors. But right now, apparently, we are in a vibes-based economy instead of one based in material reality, so I expect this will drive even more investment.
> Musk said the facility would produce between 100 and 200 billion custom AI and memory chips per year, powering Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” software, the Cybercab robotaxi program, and the Optimus humanoid robot line. He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility.
> powering Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” software
Sold and promised for more than a decade, doesn't exist yet.
> the Cybercab robotaxi program
Sold and promised, doesn't exist yet. Tesla has a bad safety record in their on-street testing.
> Optimus humanoid robot line
Sold and promised, doesn't exist. Last I heard, the demos were being remotely operated by people.
> He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility.
If Kamala Harris had been elected, Musk would have been prosecuted by the SEC and potentially be headed to prison.
And this is not me claiming that it would have been a political prosecution, not at all. He just avoided it by hitching his wagon and millions in campaign activities to the most corrupt administration this country has ever seen.
It feels like a lie. Gigapress, named similarly, was like this. It was just a press made by some other company but they marketed it as Tesla’s unique innovation. They’ll have to buy machines from other companies here too. And for what - destroying the night skies with a million satellites that will ultimately become debris when something goes wrong?
It was built by another company, but for a brand new machine of that size and complexity the launch customer is going to be required to do a ton of work to get it functional. Tesla was the first to try and build a car that way, they made whole cemeteries of failed castings to prove it out, and now the rest of the industry is buying the machines too.
I think that a reasonable person, without knowing the CEO, would call that innovative.
This is pure Luddism , they tested proved biggest machine that cut manufacturing costs , not only for them but the entire industry making transportation more affordable. They also developed alloy etc to prove it and now use it for several other cars.
The question is what is wrong with Giga press ? It works , other companies copy the approach , it made life of regular people a little bit better
In house flywheel for rapid capability evaluation on new chip designs make sense. Post scarcity economic future offering free tickets to journey to Saturn is hopeful wishful thinking better than petty squabbles on Earth destroying $22 billion a day using 60 year old fighterjet refuelers having had 7 put out of action.
Musk said 80% of Terafab’s compute output would be directed toward space-based orbital AI satellites, with only 20% for ground-based applications. He argued that solar irradiance in space is roughly 5x greater than at Earth’s surface, and that heat rejection in vacuum makes thermal scaling viable. His conclusion: orbital AI compute could become cheaper than terrestrial alternatives within 2-3 years...
I am not really into this betting market thing, but I will put my life savings that orbital AI computing is not cheaper than land based within three years. Today, I believe launch costs are still well over $1000/kg.
[+] [-] rkagerer|11 hours ago|reply
Any discussion how that might be addressed? Take a number and see you in a few years?
[+] [-] solid_fuel|11 days ago|reply
> Musk said the facility would produce between 100 and 200 billion custom AI and memory chips per year, powering Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” software, the Cybercab robotaxi program, and the Optimus humanoid robot line. He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility.
> powering Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” software
Sold and promised for more than a decade, doesn't exist yet.
> the Cybercab robotaxi program
Sold and promised, doesn't exist yet. Tesla has a bad safety record in their on-street testing.
> Optimus humanoid robot line
Sold and promised, doesn't exist. Last I heard, the demos were being remotely operated by people.
> He also said millions of Optimus robots would help build and operate the facility.
Pure fiction.
[+] [-] dangus|10 days ago|reply
And this is not me claiming that it would have been a political prosecution, not at all. He just avoided it by hitching his wagon and millions in campaign activities to the most corrupt administration this country has ever seen.
[+] [-] fooker|9 days ago|reply
This is something the world really needs, we have produced neither compute nor memory at the scale needed for the last 5 years.
I imagine they'll find recruitment difficult, getting into politics derailed dude's PR.
[+] [-] SilverElfin|11 days ago|reply
[+] [-] SR2Z|10 days ago|reply
I think that a reasonable person, without knowing the CEO, would call that innovative.
[+] [-] maxdo|10 days ago|reply
The question is what is wrong with Giga press ? It works , other companies copy the approach , it made life of regular people a little bit better
[+] [-] zeristor|11 days ago|reply
Tesla ordered most of the presses, but I think BYD is using them now too.
I’m guessing the ones used for Cybertrucks aren’t so busy.
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[+] [-] fooker|9 days ago|reply
I don't think you'll do it, but the option exists.