[bengl3rt]

San Francisco is charming, yet now grossly-expensive.

Except it's not charming at all... it's much colder than the rest of California (it honestly feels like a different planet), MUNI absolutely sucks compared to any transit system in the civilized world (NYC/Europe/parts of Asia), and the homeless problem is the worst I've seen in any major urban center.

San Francisco has a long way to go before I'd consider it a world-class city.

[philsnow]

"much colder than the rest of California"

It's easier to put on a jacket if it's cold than to strip down if it's hot.

"MUNI absolutely sucks compared to any transit system in the civilized world"

It's better than pretty much everything else in California (except maybe BART? I don't take either very much).

[DanBC]

Do you live there or just visit there?

Because tourists see the crooked street and the bridge and the hills and the cable cars. They don't see the high suicide rate or the muni or etc.

[bengl3rt]

I have lived there in the past. Now prefer the much-maligned suburbs (specifically, Mountain View).

Uber and Lyft and self-driving cars will shortly solve drinking and driving and then my final complaint about the suburbs will be gone.

[jspthrowaway2]

I pass a pile of human feces at least once a week on my walk to work, and the street in front of my office smells like urine 24x7. I've caught someone taking the wheels off a car parked on the street once, at about 2 in the afternoon on a completely parallel-parked to the brim street. In the space of a four-block walk, I'm harassed by on average 8 or 9 homeless people who react to your refusal to give them change with hostility. On a recent walk in the neighborhood shortly after sundown I was accosted by someone selling heroin, who reacted to my refusal to purchase with hostility and brandished a weapon.

I agree with him. A lot of people view San Francisco with rose-tinted glasses. While I have passed feces in New York on the stairs up from the subway, I'd contest that every visit I've ever made to New York has left me feeling cleaner than the average commute to SoMa.