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How Phil Libin, CEO of Evernote, Works

124 points| bmaeser | 13 years ago |lifehacker.com | reply

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[+] AlexDanger|13 years ago|reply
Is it a bad sign that I googled for 'Fire' and 'The Wheel' thinking they were some kind of hip Web 2.0 productivity tools?
[+] hammock|13 years ago|reply
Don't blame yourself entirely. They were (incorrectly) capitalized in the article.
[+] noknockers|13 years ago|reply
It's a bad sign. I also read them and thought they were something new I hadn't heard of. I didn't even click until I saw your comment.
[+] arctangent|13 years ago|reply
I think the capitalisation of the words was intended to solicit exactly this response. The point is that that recent things such as Google, Wikipedia and GPS are just as important as those previous innovations.
[+] edanm|13 years ago|reply
A lot of people seem to be taking this interview in a negative way. I find it nice an humorous, lacking in "real" content - but then most of these articles are lacking in content. Much as a I love the "Uses This" type series, it's basically "geek gossip magazine" - how much does it really tell you to hear that another person is using a MacBook with Sonos speakers and TextMate?

One nugget from the interview is the "Todo" questions, which makes me really think that Phil knows his product well:

"Q: What's your favorite to-do list manager?

A: You know, I don't actually have one. I use Evernote, which isn't particularly great for to-dos yet. Yet."

I've started moving more and more of my thing into Evernote, and I think the biggest thing it does wrong is: it doesn't do any one thing very well. One of those One Things I'd love it to get right is TODO management, and Phil is here hinting that it's in the works.

All in all, I came out of this interview with a smile on my face, and some more hope for the future of a product that I use a lot, and really really want to love.

[+] speeder|13 years ago|reply
Funny interview but to me it sounded like the guy was trying too hard to look human, or he wanted to hide something, or he wanted to embarrass the interviewer, or he is a stand-up comedian wannabe in real life.

I am all for humor, but reply the interviewer questions! Don't act like a politician!

[+] ScotterC|13 years ago|reply
I thought he was just a genuinely funny guy.
[+] abolibibelot|13 years ago|reply
Cliff's notes:

  Like pretty much everyone else in that space, I use all
  the iOS devices and a mac osx desktop. And my company's app.

  My nugget of wisdom: nerds don't get laid.
[+] phaus|13 years ago|reply
You forgot the Macbook.
[+] incision|13 years ago|reply
Personally, I find the "everything" nature of Evernote to be in conflict with the statement...

"That's what we aspire to build at Evernote. Something fundamentally tool."

Via browser or phone, Evernote is multiple panes, functions and I don't how many buttons where every action seems to come with an extra dialog, step or three.

That doesn't say tool to me, more like a borrowed toolbox. Sure, I can accomplish a lot with the assortment found inside, but I'd get things done a lot faster and easier with purpose-built tools.

Also, I find the inclusion of both a mini-bat and sledge on the on the desk shot a bit odd.

[+] techteam|13 years ago|reply
Am I the only one who on hearing investors and top enterpreneurs saying oh I love Uber sound like saying oh I am rich and love my Rolex? Sometimes the talk about comparing expensive limousines to taxis seems so absurd.
[+] larsberg|13 years ago|reply
Uber is awesome, even the taxi version of it (which I primarily use unless taking the wife on Big Dates). For only a little bit more than a usual cab (which basically comes even to a large-ish tip), you get:

- Improved safety. You know the name of your driver and your trip is logged. Many of my wife's friends like this aspect a _lot_.

- Cleaner. At least in Chicago, many cabs are a stinky filthy mess. In Uber, with the ratings, such cabs would be out of the rotation pretty quickly.

- No standing in the sleet.

- No fumbling with cash or the argument over "broken credit card reader". Cabbies in Chicago make less on credit cards, so on most of my non-Uber trips where I want to use credit, the driver and I basically come down to a lying competition about me not carrying cash (lie) versus his machine being broken (also a lie).

[+] rdouble|13 years ago|reply
The last time I was in SF, I found that using Uberx and Uber Taxi was only a dollar or two more than taking a cab.
[+] timjahn|13 years ago|reply
You and me both! I love the idea of Uber, but I can never seem to justify paying the insane extra expense when I can easily take the alternatives for much cheaper.

Then again, I guess I'm not super rich.

[+] ripter|13 years ago|reply
I love Uber. I also don't have a car and use public transit 90% of the time.

You know how you have a budget for your car loan/repairs/title/gas/insurance/parking? I have one for Taxis/Public Transit, and it's a lot less than what I used to pay for my car.

[+] louthy|13 years ago|reply
I'm sorry, but this is such a 'try hard' interview it's painful. Tell us what you really think, it doesn't matter if it's a bit left of centre or weird, it'd be much more interesting than this saccharine take on what you think the geeks "wanna hear".

"I think it's important to have an identity mug."

No, it isn't.

[+] mcherm|13 years ago|reply
> Tell us what you really think, it doesn't matter if it's a bit left of centre or weird

I think it's important to have an identity mug.

> No it isn't.

??

[+] JakeSc|13 years ago|reply
I enjoyed the humor. Perhaps his responses didn’t entirely serve the How I Work series, but it made Libin seem more approachable.
[+] taylorbuley|13 years ago|reply
My favorite Phil Libin quote:

I’m here to talk about entrepreneurship. I travel around quite a bit, and I’m lucky enough to be able to coach and mentor lots of entrepreneurs worldwide, and the common question I get asked is what advice I have for someone who is thinking of being an entrepreneur.

I’ve narrowed it down, really boiled it down, to one core piece of advice. If I can only say one thing, and I don’t know you any better, it’s: don’t. Don’t do it. Seriously.

http://thenextweb.com/video/2012/04/27/evernote-ceo-phil-lib...

[+] mitchellhislop|13 years ago|reply
I, for one, am VERY excited to see the todo features that he hinted at in the article. Evernote is fantastic, and I'm not sure it would be a main todo system, but if there is an area it has been lacking, it is in the handling of todos.
[+] zem|13 years ago|reply
this was really well put:

> That's the real magic of the human brain; how quickly it rewires itself around a fundamental new tool as soon as you really grok it. Think about it: at some point in your life you didn't understand the concept of "hammer", and then you understood it and the whole world changed in front of your eyes. Now, when you look at the world, you do it with the understanding that hammers exist. Same thing for Skype. One day you're worrying about how you'll pay for that call and the next day you just know that you can talk to anyone at any time. That's what we aspire to build at Evernote. Something fundamentally tool.

[+] zalzane|13 years ago|reply
What really upsets me about this article is how he gave advice to that friend of his to suppress his hobbies/interests to get a girlfriend. What kind of bullshit advice is that?

That left me pretty sour, and makes the article feel a lot more artificial/fake.

[+] kylemaxwell|13 years ago|reply
"Be about something more than just Star Trek."

I happily consider myself a lifelong stereotypical geek but my wife is not. While she accepts and loves me for who I am, I need to have more in my life than just math and Internet spaceships and hacking or we wouldn't relate to each other well.

Hopefully his friend really does have more going on in his life than carefully-organized Star Trek VHS tapes for the sole reason that only having one dimension to his life means he's missing out on a lot.

[+] hubb|13 years ago|reply
it's a humorous anecdote, told in a light way. it seems like some people are grasping for reasons to dislike this guy.
[+] tomcorrigan|13 years ago|reply
I read that little anecdote completely differently. It came across to me not as a story about suppressing hobbies/interests but rather being willing to extend your boundaries/experience new things or live with a bit of chaos in your life. Something that his friend with the perfectly arranged Star Trek VHS collection might not have done. (I know I'm generalising massively here but whenever an anecdote is reduced to a sentence or two it typically relies on stereotypes and generalisations to paint a fuller picture)

Judging by a lot of replies in this thread I think the below statement might be well on the money:

> it seems like some people are grasping for reasons to dislike this guy

[+] nvr219|13 years ago|reply
The point is not to suppress his hobbies, just to be a little more conscientious about how you present yourself. He didn't say get rid of the star trek tapes.
[+] dawernik|13 years ago|reply
Come on. Not about suppressing your hobby, it's about not being identified solely with it.

That's the stuff you pull out after you get married. Then it eventually ends up in a small closet about 5 years later. Ultimately, it ends up being what you have around you as you get old again. Life's funny that way.

[+] drumdance|13 years ago|reply
It wasn't his hobbies per se, it was his choice to use them to decorate his entire home.
[+] inopinatus|13 years ago|reply
He's a CEO. He knows that first impressions are lasting ones. It was good advice.
[+] Ologn|13 years ago|reply
"The Evernote office is all open seating. My desk is the messiest. We don't have any desk phones, but lots of conference rooms if you want to talk to someone."

Is a lack of desk phones unique to Evernote, or is this becoming more common in the Bay area? It's not a bad idea. Sitting next to someone saying "Thank you for calling Initech, please hold..." all day can be distracting. As can a phone which rings every fifteen minutes with someone who wants some minor thing.

[+] dysoco|13 years ago|reply
Loved the Star Trek story. Although I'd love to hear more about what software he uses: he only mentioned Evernote, Google and a couple more.
[+] aiculedssul|13 years ago|reply
It isn't cross-platform: no Linux support at all.
[+] 31reasons|13 years ago|reply
"I actually sleep really well; it's sort of my core competency; I can fall asleep anywhere, at any time, on command. My brain doesn't understand time zones and I don't get jet lag. This is my super power. I go to sleep at random times and wake up at random times, but I probably get about eight hours of sleep on average. I know how incredibly lucky this makes me."

His brain seems pretty unusual regarding sleep. I never heard something like this. We need to study his brain asap!

[+] interpol_p|13 years ago|reply
I have that sleep pattern.

Fall asleep anywhere, any time. Wake up at random hours and do work.

I think it's a product of having your life be your work, or the other way around.

[+] rdouble|13 years ago|reply
It's pretty common with old people.
[+] zwieback|13 years ago|reply
I was impressed that that long German word was both spelled correctly and grammatically internally consistent. It shows an attention to detail that's often lacking in this day and age and something you don't see often. And I don't even try to use umlauts on my US keyboard anymore.
[+] networkjester|13 years ago|reply
Excellent article. I love Phil's sense of humor. Seems like a great guy running a great company!
[+] TimJRobinson|13 years ago|reply
Anyone know where I can find more in depth articles like this? I'd really like to see a breakdown of the habits and daily routines of successful people more than just the normal 'work hard and do something you enjoy and you'll be successful'
[+] jfernandez|13 years ago|reply
Not necessarily an article but the video series produced by Kevin Rose, http://foundation.kr/, are pretty insightful into the more human elements of some of the people you may have heard of.
[+] arindone|13 years ago|reply
well this is part of a series for Lifehacker -- they've had some other interesting ones in the past (including the Editor of the MIT Tech Review.)
[+] Zolomon|13 years ago|reply
Are you supposed to interpret his answer to the best advice he ever received as to cheat?