"Ignore advanced web developers complaining about ‘not another Bootstrap website’" I agree. It's your customers that matter. And unless you're building a product for advanced web developers, pleasing them should be no matter to you.
I've shown Bootstrap sites to non-developers and the response is usually that the sites look nice. Never has it been "ug. boostrap?".
We run the resource page listed in the article [1] and as a result of that it is quite possible I've looked at more sites built with Bootstrap than even the creators.
From this I've really found two things:
One, I think there is some massive confirmation bias at work. If a site customizes Bootstrap and it looks nice nobody credits it as a 'Bootstrap Looking' site, so as a result it is only when the defaults are used that people really pick up on it.
Second, the alternative to a site built with Bootstrap is typically not a beautiful custom designed front end, but a pretty rough looking unstyled, inconsistent mess.
Bootstrap is the new baseline for what a website should look like, it should be customized, it can be improved but there is now zero excuse for it looking worse.
Obviously I love bootstrap otherwise I wouldn't be building Jetstrap. But really, bootstrap is an extremely solid framework, and you can do a ton of customizations to make it look completely non-default (for example, our designer built our company site in a day with bootstrap+jetstrap which looks completely customized: http://drifty.co/).
You will implement the same structures if you don't use it, so you might as well take advantage of the framework and invest in a nice custom design.
I'm not a professional but wanted to look into bootstrap for a while. Your Jetstrap finally made me get on the bandwagon and I was able to look at the potential in a single day no less!. Thanks.
I think it would be even better if you were to showcase some example websites on your landing page. I'd wish to see what others are building with Jetstrap.
Agreed. Most of the time you end up with a smaller file as it's easier to comment out the various modules as you're going as opposed to downloading customized builds from the website as you work.
Also, if Sass/Compass is more your cup of tea, there's a well-maintained port of Bootstrap[0].
Yes, you can use just the CSS, but all the scripts are tied to jquery ,since they are jquery plugins.
Regarding bootstrap , i'm a designer, and i dont mind people using it. The heck i used it myself.
It doesnt turn server guys them into ergonomists nor usuability specialists , but they know that their code will render well on all the browsers with virtually no test. I prefer people using bootstrap sites to coders that try to come up with their own design and just cant...
Now i design webapps and sites that need to stand out more than the basic bootstrap look but bootstrap can be a tool to work upon too.
Of course there will be a bootstrap backlash like there is a jquery backlash from javascript "purists". But these purists tend to forget what was web development before jquery or before boostrap ...
[+] [-] joedev|13 years ago|reply
I've shown Bootstrap sites to non-developers and the response is usually that the sites look nice. Never has it been "ug. boostrap?".
[+] [-] michaelbuckbee|13 years ago|reply
From this I've really found two things:
One, I think there is some massive confirmation bias at work. If a site customizes Bootstrap and it looks nice nobody credits it as a 'Bootstrap Looking' site, so as a result it is only when the defaults are used that people really pick up on it.
Second, the alternative to a site built with Bootstrap is typically not a beautiful custom designed front end, but a pretty rough looking unstyled, inconsistent mess.
Bootstrap is the new baseline for what a website should look like, it should be customized, it can be improved but there is now zero excuse for it looking worse.
1 - http://www.bootstraphero.com/the-big-badass-list-of-twitter-...
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[+] [-] yesimahuman|13 years ago|reply
You will implement the same structures if you don't use it, so you might as well take advantage of the framework and invest in a nice custom design.
[+] [-] webwanderings|13 years ago|reply
I think it would be even better if you were to showcase some example websites on your landing page. I'd wish to see what others are building with Jetstrap.
[+] [-] exodust|13 years ago|reply
Thanks for reminding me of what you have no business reminding me of.
Yet another article telling me what I am, what I should and shouldn't do.
The flip side is that HTML and CSS is not rocket science. It's rewarding and valuable to build your own sites.
If your code is "untidy at best" I would recommend you find another job where you skills don't amount to "untidy". Good luck.
[+] [-] alanmeaney|13 years ago|reply
While it's not rocket science some of us enjoy a little help. Don't take my word as gospel, it's just an opinion.
I don't do this for a living yet but hopefully one day soon...
[+] [-] Zombieball|13 years ago|reply
http://hostedbootstrap.com/ http://www.bootstrapcdn.com http://cdnjs.com/
[+] [-] arvidjanson|13 years ago|reply
http://i.imgur.com/7H0dGnI.png?1
Safari 6 on OSX by the way.
[+] [-] deservingend|13 years ago|reply
I thought the whole point was that since it's LESS, you can change things up really easily.
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[+] [-] lowboy|13 years ago|reply
Also, if Sass/Compass is more your cup of tea, there's a well-maintained port of Bootstrap[0].
[0]: https://github.com/jlong/sass-twitter-bootstrap
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Regarding bootstrap , i'm a designer, and i dont mind people using it. The heck i used it myself.
It doesnt turn server guys them into ergonomists nor usuability specialists , but they know that their code will render well on all the browsers with virtually no test. I prefer people using bootstrap sites to coders that try to come up with their own design and just cant...
Now i design webapps and sites that need to stand out more than the basic bootstrap look but bootstrap can be a tool to work upon too.
Of course there will be a bootstrap backlash like there is a jquery backlash from javascript "purists". But these purists tend to forget what was web development before jquery or before boostrap ...