[meaty]

Th problem is whatever you do you're locked into an ecosystem of some sort. Even open source software. Have you tried building a portable c program on windows, Linux and OSX? Java is the least painless thing but we all know that's just another ecosystem.

The bit people forget is: stop procrastinating and build some shit.

To be honest, most people really don't give a shit. The next cigarette or pay day is far more important. Perhaps I'm getting old, but there are more important things to worry about.

[AnthonyMouse]

>Th problem is whatever you do you're locked into an ecosystem of some sort.

The difference is that not all ecosystems are tied to a single vendor. Nobody has a lock on POSIX or Java like Microsoft has on Win32. And the hardest part of getting a portable C program to run on Windows, Linux and OSX is to get the program that was much more easily ported between Linux and OSX to run on Windows, because Microsoft has to do a million inane things like using WSAGetLastError instead of errno just to be different.

>The bit people forget is: stop procrastinating and build some shit.

I don't think people forgot that. We've just started building shit for and on non-Microsoft platforms and found it to our liking.