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Kiln

233 points| adelevie | 13 years ago |github.com | reply

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[+] spicyj|13 years ago|reply
Kiln is already a well-known software development tool from Fog Creek: http://www.fogcreek.com/kiln/. I wonder if the author knows.
[+] shawn-butler|13 years ago|reply
Sounds like an opportunity. Maybe a name/brand search tool dedicated to software projects that gives a report on conflicts that costs a few bucks or is ad-supported.
[+] colinta|13 years ago|reply
nope, never heard of it.
[+] coolsunglasses|13 years ago|reply
There's a Kiln for Ring app context management in the Clojure world too.
[+] mion|13 years ago|reply
This is awesome, great work! However, and I don't mean to be rude, lemme just give you a tip about your documentation.

I'm not a "documentation expert" or anything, but IMHO I'd say there is too much information on your "landing page" and not a clear "call to action":

- How about some installation instructions?

- Basic usage? (addressing the main features, those which most users will probably use most of the time) If I were you I'd put the details about plugins somewhere in the Wiki.

I don't have a lot of spare time to check out your thing, so the project becomes increasingly unattractive as I have to waste more and more time to figure out how to use it / how to get it up and running for a basic test.

Again, IMHO, I believe this applies to most hackers, and to open source documentation in general. Very often I see great hackers who can code 1000x better than I do, but fail to write 'attractive' documentation for their projects.

[+] jkubicek|13 years ago|reply
As cool as that looks, I've been using DCIntrospect for a year or two, and it's nearly everything I need in a live UI inspection tool.

https://github.com/domesticcatsoftware/DCIntrospect

[+] colinta|13 years ago|reply
I spent a long time trying to find similar things to what I was building, and of course now I'm finding out about PonyDebugger and this tool.

Different, though, because Kiln is meant to be more generic, and pluggable.

[+] objclxt|13 years ago|reply
It's not totally clear from the project page, but I'm pretty sure this particular project is for RubyMotion, and you'll need to be writing your apps with that to benefit. You wouldn't be able to integrate Kiln straight into an existing Objective-C/XCode flow, unlike DCIntrospect. Someone do correct me if I'm wrong on this though.
[+] spicyj|13 years ago|reply
This looks like it gives a lot of what I hoped PonyDebugger [1] would be when I first heard about it. Cool!

[1]: https://github.com/square/PonyDebugger

[+] colinta|13 years ago|reply
Thanks! PonyDebugger is solid, though, and much more useful from when you're at a computer. This project is all about getting debugging information from your device.
[+] colinta|13 years ago|reply
name is resolved, so all the trolls and snipes that are hung up on the NAME instead of the PRODUCT, please continue your trolling and sniping, but on a new topic (like this comment! it's perfect!)

https://github.com/colinta/motion-xray

[+] blueprint|13 years ago|reply
I hope that this turns into on-device development. I would pay a handsome sum to be able to code on my iPad mini or iPhone on the train.
[+] sergiotapia|13 years ago|reply
Gone now. Anyone have a mirror?
[+] film42|13 years ago|reply
Check the link to make sure there weren't any added parameters. I know hacker node had/has a problem with that.
[+] graue|13 years ago|reply
It's working fine for me. Did you scroll down to the readme?
[+] thomasfl|13 years ago|reply
How many people are using ruby motion to create ios apps?