At that "4 core" (virtual) pricing I'd take dedicated from OVH instead [1]
The $6 pricepoint is likely to just get you in the door for an upsell.
Why would you subject yourself to unknown neighbors with unknown abusive habits on the server resources when you can just get a dedicated with SSD for less money and co-host your own projects with known behaviors (and without the overhead of a vps hypervisor).
Here's the #1 question I have for any of these hosts, and I never see it answered: how stable is network throughput?
I run what amounts to a fancy real-time chat service. Are my users guaranteed a slice of the pipe? Do you have the resources to make sure they won't lag horribly if my neighbor is getting DDoSed?
Keep in mind that there is a difference between "we actively make sure you'll have a good experience" and "you happened to get provisioned on a machine with good neighbors", even though the anecdotes will be identical.
Disclaimer: I work for UpCloud, also a cloud hosting company.
This is a great question. Something I've been thinking about a lot is also the benchmarking of redundancy and the protection of one's data.
It's easy to benchmark performance, but as Pirelli stated in their advertising: speed is nothing without control. I feel the same about online hosting providers.
Naturally I have no knowledge of US redundancy solutions, but it's one of the most critical yet toughest things to compare when choosing a new hosting provider.
Bingo. Thoughput of all kinds is the number one gotcha of low end budget hosts. Disk, network, etc. I work with tons of these kinds of hosts for clients and I'm just not at all surprised anymore when everything goes to shit a month after I sign up and suddenly the VPS gets transferred off that special "new customers" node for any number of bullshit reasons.
Bottom line: You get what you pay for. End of story.
Why does every host offer a plan that scales at the same rate in every column (CPU, RAM, Disk space, bytes/month)?
I can think of almost no application which requires lots of all of these. Why isn't there a host which allows you to scale your own requirements? Is it a technical thing, or just another form of "oversell and underprovision because most people won't use their plan"?
It makes things easier for the provider, build 1000 identical boxes then sell by the slice. It means they don't have to build odd boxes to deal with odd demand, or try to pair up high memory use low compute use with a low memory use high compute use client nodes.
it's far easier to standardize (xsmall, small, medium, large, xlarge) than to allow for custom requirements for the purposes of communication. Most people don't necessarily know exactly how much they'll need, so its easy to just say "large".
Plus, in a virtual setup, optimizing allocations with custom requirements is a far trickier algorithmic problem.
> Ubiquity offers a 100% uptime SLA on our entire Cloud infrastructure
> In the unlikely event that one of the solid state hard disks fails on the Ubiquity Cloud there will be no data loss and no impact on the cloud instance's performance
First one is not necessarily a red flag. It doesn't mean that you get 100% uptime. It just means you get paid back if you don't get it. It's an service-level agreement, not a guarantee. (it also doesn't necessarily mean that uptime == your machine is responding... read the document carefully)
The second can be interpreted two ways... Do we start at any state or a perfect state? If you start will all good drives and one fails, it shouldn't affect anything assuming they're using raid. With raid mirroring there shouldn't be an impact on the performance either. However if you start with some number of disks already failing, of course there will be data loss. They could probably say that they're doing N+X redundancy instead to be clear.
I'm now confused about what "Cloud Hosting" is. I thought it was a "virtual" dedicated server. All that ubiquity provides is a control panel:
> Our managed cloud servers come with cPanel/WHM access. No root access is provided.
How is this different from regular hosting you can get elsewhere far cheaper? Is it just the promises of RAM and SSD?
Seems to be a pretty good offer, even in comparison to digital-ocean (https://www.digitalocean.com/).
Has anyone hosted anything with them before? I'd like to know whether they're dependable.
Lol, I migrated from Linode to DigitalOcean one month ago.
The pricing of UbiquityServers seems very tempting, however I will calm down this time :)
Anyway, has somebody had a chance to try both DO & US?
If you want to compare to digital ocean they are having a coupon code on Twitter - Includes 512MB RAM, 20GB SSD Disk, & 1TB Transfer for $5/mo.! Use promo code "SSDTWEET" for a $10 credit.
[+] [-] ck2|13 years ago|reply
You have no idea how many neighbors you have on that vps.
And that "vcpu" is likely a hyperthreaded core, not physical, so it's a "half core" in reality.
At that "4 core" (virtual) pricing I'd take dedicated from OVH instead [1]The $6 pricepoint is likely to just get you in the door for an upsell.
Why would you subject yourself to unknown neighbors with unknown abusive habits on the server resources when you can just get a dedicated with SSD for less money and co-host your own projects with known behaviors (and without the overhead of a vps hypervisor).
[1] http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp_32g_ssd.xml
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I run what amounts to a fancy real-time chat service. Are my users guaranteed a slice of the pipe? Do you have the resources to make sure they won't lag horribly if my neighbor is getting DDoSed?
Keep in mind that there is a difference between "we actively make sure you'll have a good experience" and "you happened to get provisioned on a machine with good neighbors", even though the anecdotes will be identical.
[+] [-] vilpponen|13 years ago|reply
This is a great question. Something I've been thinking about a lot is also the benchmarking of redundancy and the protection of one's data.
It's easy to benchmark performance, but as Pirelli stated in their advertising: speed is nothing without control. I feel the same about online hosting providers.
Naturally I have no knowledge of US redundancy solutions, but it's one of the most critical yet toughest things to compare when choosing a new hosting provider.
Best of luck to US though!
[+] [-] ushi|13 years ago|reply
https://www.ubiquityservers.com/ddos-protection
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[+] [-] L0j1k|13 years ago|reply
Bottom line: You get what you pay for. End of story.
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[+] [-] tych0|13 years ago|reply
I can think of almost no application which requires lots of all of these. Why isn't there a host which allows you to scale your own requirements? Is it a technical thing, or just another form of "oversell and underprovision because most people won't use their plan"?
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[+] [-] vilpponen|13 years ago|reply
So I wouldn't call it a technical thing, but more of a strategic decision in how you want to position your company + offering.
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[+] [-] niggler|13 years ago|reply
Plus, in a virtual setup, optimizing allocations with custom requirements is a far trickier algorithmic problem.
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[+] [-] cpg|13 years ago|reply
> Ubiquity offers a 100% uptime SLA on our entire Cloud infrastructure
> In the unlikely event that one of the solid state hard disks fails on the Ubiquity Cloud there will be no data loss and no impact on the cloud instance's performance
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[+] [-] viraptor|13 years ago|reply
The second can be interpreted two ways... Do we start at any state or a perfect state? If you start will all good drives and one fails, it shouldn't affect anything assuming they're using raid. With raid mirroring there shouldn't be an impact on the performance either. However if you start with some number of disks already failing, of course there will be data loss. They could probably say that they're doing N+X redundancy instead to be clear.
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I guess it depends on what you want for your fiver (5-6$). Ubiquity's deal has twice the RAM.
I'm suspicious regarding dependability, which I assume one should be in this price range irregardless.
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[+] [-] johnmurch|13 years ago|reply
If you want to compare to digital ocean they are having a coupon code on Twitter - Includes 512MB RAM, 20GB SSD Disk, & 1TB Transfer for $5/mo.! Use promo code "SSDTWEET" for a $10 credit.
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Also I lost all my data and backups.
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