[throwawayAskHN]

Yes there is, it hasn't launched yet so I have no cash flow.

It's a big cloud project and just getting it launched and running is going to take at the very least some DevOps people.

It doesn't initially make sense to me that investors would shy away from something with so much existing value. "I've done the heavy lifting, and that's a bad thing?" But I think you're right, I can see how fast-paced technology investors would be more interested in snapping up a large stake of a project with a greedy, determined leader.

I need more of a bank-loan sort of investment, which unfortunately I can't get because I trashed my credit.