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fyi80 | 13 years ago

Another horrible repeating of the "income inequality" trope, and then showing graphs of median income that don't get near the top l% of US earners, while citing a stat that the top 1% of earners are gaining.

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djcapelis|13 years ago

Do you honestly expect whole census tracts to have median incomes at the level of the top percentile?

A factor of ten difference between census tracts in the same city is worth examining.

tomkarlo|13 years ago

Isn't that what you'd expect? There's a factor of ten difference these days between the poverty line and a fairly typical white-collar income (call it $120K.) Is it really surprising, or telling, that at the tract-level you'd find a factor of ten difference in a major city? Is there a major city where you don't see that?

frogpelt|13 years ago

Found some data on the US Census website:

  Table H-1.  Income Limits for Each Fifth and Top 5 Percent of 
  All Households:  1967 to 2011						
  												  	
  Year		Lowest	Second	Third	Fourth	Top 5 percent			
  2011		20,262 	38,520 	62,434 	101,582 186,000 			
  1967 (adj)	19,931 	38,866 	55,164 	78,663 	126,232 			
  1967		 3,000 	 5,850 	 8,303 	11,840 	 19,000 				
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  Table H-2.  Share of Aggregate Income Received by Each Fifth and 
  Top 5 Percent of Households, All Races:  1967 to 2011			
  												  	
  Year	Lowest	Second	Third	Fourth	Highest	Top 5 percent
  2011	3.2 	 8.4 	14.3 	23.0 	51.1 	22.3 
  1967	4.0 	10.8 	17.3 	24.2 	43.6 	17.2 
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  Table H-3.  Mean Household Income Received by Each Fifth and 
  Top 5 Percent, All Races:  1967 to 2011						
  
  Year	   Lowest  Second  Third   Fourth  Highest  Top 5 percent
  2011	   11,239  29,204  49,842  80,080  178,020  311,444 
  1967 (adj) 10,630  29,452  47,018  65,787  118,393  186,758 
  1967	    1,600   4,433   7,077   9,902   17,820   28,110 
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  Table H-6.  Regions--All Races by Median and Mean Income: 1975 to 2011
  
  	Median income	  Mean income	
  	Current $ 2011 $  Current $  2011 $
  2011	50,054 	  50,054  69,677     69,677
  1975 	11,800 	  44,851  13,779     52,373
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This data indicates to me that the bottom 3/5ths of income earners earn about what they did 45 years ago if adjusted for inflation, while the top income earners have increased. The fact that the top 20% have increased their earnings drastically does not necessarily mean to me that there's a problem.

It simply means if you can break out of the slump and make your way into the top 20% of income earners that you will be more rewarded than you were 45 years ago.