The author of this post comes across as a raging jackass. I'd never heard of Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome until I read the other post, but it perfectly describes my life. I've never really known how to describe just how difficult it is to get up in the morning, but it is really, truly difficult.
Joe Conway, you said in your post that "every single one of your actions is controllable". If you truly believe this, you should demonstrate it by controlling your impulse to be an asshole.
Does flying to a different timezone incapacitate you or do you adjust in a few days? Does daylight savings time cause you problems or do you adjust like everyone else?
If you can adjust to those things, you can adjust your "normal" sleep cycle and you don't have this rare condition.
The reason you have a hard time getting up "early" is that you go to sleep too late. Just go to sleep an hour earlier than "normal". Too hard? Impossible? If that's so, how do you do it every year when we go off DST?
I don't feel guilty for over-sleeping. I've worked out a life for myself where people don't care that I sleep until 11:00. I simply don't schedule meetings or appointments for the morning, or if there's absolutely one that can't be avoided, I go to bed early and set an alarm clock to wake up for it.
It is not being a sissy to know your limitations and preferences and to work around them. If you make a commitment to another person, you should keep it. But nobody is forcing you to make that commitment in the first place. Is it really impossible to schedule that meeting in the afternoon, or to not have it at all?
It's not the OPs place to say what sort of sleep habits other people should or should not have. If he finds them annoying, fine: don't work with them.
I doubt he'd have a problem with you. His issue seems pretty clearly to be with people who do not keep their commitments. If you don't start your day before 11 then obviously don't accept meeting invites before that time and you are golden. Oh wait, you work at a company where 9:00 meetings are normative? I guess that job is a commitment too, isn't it?
Maybe I read it differently than you, but I read the article as spurred by someone that was habitually late for meetings. More generally, excuse making. Not any particular sleep cycle.
When saying "If you make a commitment to another person, you should keep it." I see you as being in agreement with the post I just read.
<i>"But nobody is forcing you to make that commitment in the first place."</i>
The author's point is that many people with this "disorder" continue to make commitments they cannot keep. It is Jason Freedman who says "The one who can’t seem to consistently set the alarm clock for A.M. and not P.M. I know how it feels to be the undependable one."
If you are consciously aware of this, yet continue to make these commitments - then the author I believe argues you are a "lazy", "sissy."
This post and the original post set up a massive false dichotomy. Yes, keep your commitments. Yes, pull your weight at work. For many people, that means getting your ass into the office at a normal time.
But in order to get there, you should understand yourself and work with who you are. If a label like "delayed sleep phase syndrome" helps you manage your life, use it. Either set good expectations with your team, or set up systems to help you out.
The ass-kicking rhetoric of this post is true, as far as it goes. For some people, this sort of wake-up call is exactly what they need. But for many people, "just do it" is not a useful message. Feeling guilty is useful if it kicks you into action - but too much and it just holds you down, preventing you from making progress.
Light therapy. Or, you know, modafinil works too. The answer isn't always 'man up', neither is it 'I am a victim'. Just treat it and move on with your life. You're not a hero for getting to work on time, but neither are you a villain for being late.
The world is a big place and everyone has their own circumstance. But I think the point of the Great Big Get-Off-My-Lawn Rant (which I loved) was more that for the vast majority of people in the vast majority of circumstances getting up in the morning doesn't rise to the level of a severe personal handicap.
I mean, I hate mornings as much as the next person, and have slept through a decent number of events. Yet still, when I had kids and had to get up for a crying baby or to change a diaper, I Just Did It, and didn't feel the need to blog about whether I should feel "guilty" about it.
I mean, really: don't we have more important things to argue about? Isn't there a new Javascript rendering abstraction layer or something?
Rather than starting with modafinil, melatonin should probably be the first step. It might help, and people do not report tolerance after prolonged use the way they do for modafinil.
I have no trouble keeping my commitments, even if they entail being somewhere at 7am or partaking in the standardized work day. Getting up "early" and forcing my self to sleep before it's time is not optimal for my functioning, however. I fail to see how doing something sub-optimal is supposed to be a sign of heroism.
Joe Conway asserts that nobody functions well within the Standardized Sleep Cycle, which is simply wrong factually but more importantly if he actually believes this nonsense it's mind-bendingly malicious of him to advocate something that has no upside just because it's more macho.
To the douchebag author: Having a different sleep rhythm does not mean someone is a sissy. It doesn't mean they're lazy or unable to keep appointments. Your whole post is a huge straw man argument, and it's unpleasant to read due to you being so full of yourself.
Let me close this comment in my time-honored tradition of pissing off both sides equally: I think those fuzzy syndromes and disorders are bullshit. Humans are diverse, we're not as standardized as evolutionary psychologists would have everyone believe. Stop trying to be "normal", stop trying to make others "normal". Being "not normal" is not by itself a disorder or acronym-worthy.
Having a different default circadian rhythm does not mean you're sick. Nor does calling people sissies make you more manly, but that's for a different discussion.
Like the author of the blog mentioned in this post, I too find it hard to wake up in the morning. But, so what? I don't feel pity for myself or try to blame my desire to sleep longer on a "disease". This blog post really hits the nail on the head.
That isn't an excuse to stop trying—there are things you can do that often help: a combination of correctly timed melatonin and light therapy can shift your circadian rhythm back towards normal. Nonetheless, it's an actual medical condition.
To everyone else: if you think you have this problem, do something about it. There's a healthy chance you can fix it.
And since it's easy for you to overcome that problem, it must mean everyone else who struggles with it must not be trying. It can't possibly be harder for them than for you, after all!
Nope! I regularly spring out of bed feeling wide awake, well rested and ready to start the day a good hour or two before I need to get up to get to work on time, and that time immediately after waking up in the morning is often my favorite part of the day.
Of course, the flipside of this is that I'm often ready to pass out by 9 PM.
If you're in a coma, is that your fault? If you have narcolepsy, is it your fault? If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push, is that your fault? If you have a medical condition that makes it harder for you to wake up than for 99.8% of the population, is that your fault? There's a line somewhere, and I don't think the author of the original article crossed it.
I think the point here is that everything today is considered a "medical condition". While that makes sense from a medical perspective, all it does is give people excuses for not dealing with their problems. "I can't get to work on time, I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome". "I can't focus in class, I have Attention Deficit Disorder". These are genuine difficulties that afflicted people will have to face, but don't ask the whole world to change to fit your circumstances.
Note, I was in and out of specialist children's hospitals for a good year or two while doctors tried to diagnose the reason my brain works differently to theirs. I have a certain set of psychological challenges I have to overcome, but I don't sit around whining about it all day.
It seems like you're pulling out all the stops to avoid the uncomfortable point: the vast, vast majority of us are normal and don't have a convenient excuse for our poor sleep habits.
>If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push, is that your fault?
Absolutely. 1000%. Move your alarm. Hide it. Make it not turn off until you do math problems. Have a friend call you. Set your computer to set off such an unholy alarm that your neighbors will hear. Buy one of those alarm helicopters that flies around the room until you catch it. Do what you have to do.
It is your responsibility and yours alone to wake up early enough to meet the obligations that you made for yourself.
Judging by the fact that the word "sissies" is in the title, I don't think Joe Conway has any interest in giving some gay person any credit. He's a real man, you know.
Plus, attacking other people as lazy doesn't mean you yourself have to put in the work to familiarize yourself with history before making historical claims. Going to the library is too hard for my generation.
I never imagined that the nerd-flame-war that would cause me to take a HN break was over waking up in the morning, and not about bashing some poor database or microbenchmark.
Actually, I think this post, which is also causing me to take an HN break, is not very surprising from that perspective. It highlights one of the worst tendencies of HN I've been worried about a while.
HN is actually quite good on technical issues. People disagree, but it's rarely completely idiotic. There is smart stuff, and information is exchanged, and the overall level of debate is good.
But on philosophical issues, it's frankly not very good. There is a lot of knee-jerk bigotry. I mean this post leads by calling people "sissies", a clearly homophobic term. It also has a complete disinterest in science, and is longer on trolling and provocation than reason or intelligence. It worked. Got to #1 on HN!
Simple sound-bites, strong opinions, and posts that I can only really describe as in the "lifehacking" genre on the one hand, or the "political/social provocation" genre on the other hand, are what's the worst about HN. These are usually embarrassing at best. And in the best case they get flagged off the front page. The moderators are also clearly worried, because provocative titles often get changed, which sometimes leads to the posts fizzling without being flagged. Reduces damage, at least.
Anyway, as you say, time for a break. I'm sick of Joe Conway and his ilk of arrogant, ignorant assholes. Before chiding other people for being lazy, maybe these ignorant fucks should get off their asses and visit a library. They aren't stupid, but they're ignorant. Science and intelligence is about more than blogging whatever comes to the top of your head after 10 minutes of thought. You need to read. You need to think a bit about whether the first reaction that comes to mind is correct: is this really the position you want to write a manifesto about? Do you have data to support your contention that an alleged condition is imagined and actually the people are just lazy losers, and "suck it up" is a good prescription? Or are you just expressing a reactionary, right-wing political view borne more out of politics and prejudice than rationality and evidence?
sissies plural of sis·sy (Noun)
Noun
derogatory. A person regarded as effeminate or cowardly.
derogatory. An effeminate homosexual.
Stay classy!
> We used to value hard work. It was the cornerstone of our society. We invented computing, the telephone, the automobile and modern medicine. We invaded Normandy. We traveled to the moon.
Sounds like history was invented in the US too, by Joe Conway. Computing was invented by Alan Turing (incidentally a gay man) or Chales Babbage, both of which are from Britain. The telephone was incrementally invented by many people, some of them from the US but most not [1]. In particular, Graham Bell was born in Britain, lived in Canada, then in the US, and then again in Canada. The automobile was invented by Ferdinand Verbiest from Belgium. Modern medicine was invented by (among many others) Louis Pasteur, a Frenchman. Most of the troops in the invasion of Normandy were not from the US. The first spacecraft to the moon was from the Soviet Union.
I didn't like the tone of this article at all. I'll spare us all and put aside the causality vs. free will debate, but saying all of our actions are controllable is ridiculous.
If trying like hell not to have to wake up early in the morning makes someone a sissy, then I'm the king of sissies.
This reminds me of a quote from Crowfoot, once a chief of the Blackfoot tribe:
"What is life? It is the flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the winter time. It is as the little shadow that runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset."
Life's short. Enjoy it. If that means not waking up at a certain time, then don't. But, also, don't complain when you have to deal with the consequences.
I speak as someone who shaved almost two hours off of his regular rise-time in the last few months. Wherever the blame lies, at least look for some of these "big wins":
* Do you actually get enough sleep? Can you show when you actually went to bed and when you got back out?
* Do you avoid bright, blue lights (e.g. florescent bulbs or monitors without Flux) close to bed time?
* Do you have a ritual of some kind that gets your mind and body ready for bed?
* Have you had an actual sleep study checking for sleep apnea?
* Does your diet or other factors give you heartburn or other physiological sleep interrupts?
If you can devote 1-3 weeks to checking one of these at a time, that can address a lot of sleep issues.
I'm not sure you got the point of the article. You seem to be a "blind rage" mood today so I'll try to make it a little clearer.
He's not saying "it's not your fault." He's saying you have a real medical condition that needs to be treated. He also points out how to treat it and manage the condition, so that people will not continue to have their oversleeping issues.
What you're saying in response amounts to telling a person with depression that they're a buzz kill and should just cheer up.
People need to understand that chemicals play a huge part of how our body functions, and that not everyone has the same chemistry going on in their bodies. These chemical abnormalities can have a huge impact on your life and show up under a wide range of different conditions - depression, anxiety, bi-polar, ADHD, etc. These are real conditions caused by real physical things and, just because you can't see them as obviously as a broken arm, doesn't mean they're not real.
Your ignorance and lack of understanding isn't a virtue. It's not something to be proud of. Educate yourself.
Exactly. Machines should do all the "hard work" that I do not want to do at any given time, allowing me to spend my life cruising. We don't innovate to continue "working hard", we do so to make life easier in some way.
My top tip for making sure you are not a zombie in the morning is:
Don't eat a late dinner. Eat before 7 pm.
Go to bed between 9.30 and 10.30 pm.
If you want, use the time before second sleep[1] to catch up on reading.
Get up when your alarm rings at 6 am. Every damn day.
These are all points you certainly can control yourself.
This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen at the top of Hacker News. It's true, some people are just lazy, but the "author" you refer to is Jason Freedman. He's a successful YC founder who probably busts his ass harder than 99% of the people on this site. He isn't making an excuse, he's trying the fucking HELP. He still gets results, he sold a company already and 42Floors seems to be doing just fine. Everything I've ever heard about him has been positive.
People like the OP are the reason we can't have nice things.
What a prolix pile of raw, unthinking emotion. The original post was kinda silly, but it was miles ahead of this irrational Puritanical drivel.
If you believe that life should be hard, then you are welcome to make things hard for yourself. Personally, when something is hard, I treat that as a problem to be solved so that living a good life is as easy as possible. I think my approach will be more fruitful in the end, but hey, it's your life.
Any disorder is a problem to be solved by some, while being an obstacle which others let stop them. If it's important enough, you'll be there, awake and early.
By being late, you're communicating that your job isn't the most important thing in your life. If that's true, we should be honest about it.
Every generation is full of the weak and the strong. We're all weak in some ways and strong in others. We've learned to subsidize one another.
This post is stupid. Not everything can be fixed with 'will power'. There are inherent physiological differences across people, you need to stop assuming that everyone else experiences the same 'reality' as you.
[+] [-] eridius|13 years ago|reply
Joe Conway, you said in your post that "every single one of your actions is controllable". If you truly believe this, you should demonstrate it by controlling your impulse to be an asshole.
[+] [-] rmah|13 years ago|reply
If you can adjust to those things, you can adjust your "normal" sleep cycle and you don't have this rare condition.
The reason you have a hard time getting up "early" is that you go to sleep too late. Just go to sleep an hour earlier than "normal". Too hard? Impossible? If that's so, how do you do it every year when we go off DST?
[+] [-] _delirium|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] nostrademons|13 years ago|reply
I don't feel guilty for over-sleeping. I've worked out a life for myself where people don't care that I sleep until 11:00. I simply don't schedule meetings or appointments for the morning, or if there's absolutely one that can't be avoided, I go to bed early and set an alarm clock to wake up for it.
It is not being a sissy to know your limitations and preferences and to work around them. If you make a commitment to another person, you should keep it. But nobody is forcing you to make that commitment in the first place. Is it really impossible to schedule that meeting in the afternoon, or to not have it at all?
It's not the OPs place to say what sort of sleep habits other people should or should not have. If he finds them annoying, fine: don't work with them.
[+] [-] jeremyjh|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] 3am|13 years ago|reply
When saying "If you make a commitment to another person, you should keep it." I see you as being in agreement with the post I just read.
[+] [-] murtali|13 years ago|reply
The author's point is that many people with this "disorder" continue to make commitments they cannot keep. It is Jason Freedman who says "The one who can’t seem to consistently set the alarm clock for A.M. and not P.M. I know how it feels to be the undependable one."
If you are consciously aware of this, yet continue to make these commitments - then the author I believe argues you are a "lazy", "sissy."
[+] [-] tmorton|13 years ago|reply
But in order to get there, you should understand yourself and work with who you are. If a label like "delayed sleep phase syndrome" helps you manage your life, use it. Either set good expectations with your team, or set up systems to help you out.
The ass-kicking rhetoric of this post is true, as far as it goes. For some people, this sort of wake-up call is exactly what they need. But for many people, "just do it" is not a useful message. Feeling guilty is useful if it kicks you into action - but too much and it just holds you down, preventing you from making progress.
[+] [-] jaggederest|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] ajross|13 years ago|reply
I mean, I hate mornings as much as the next person, and have slept through a decent number of events. Yet still, when I had kids and had to get up for a crying baby or to change a diaper, I Just Did It, and didn't feel the need to blog about whether I should feel "guilty" about it.
I mean, really: don't we have more important things to argue about? Isn't there a new Javascript rendering abstraction layer or something?
[+] [-] Anderkent|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] anonymoushn|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Udo|13 years ago|reply
I am not sick, I don't have any syndrome.
I have no trouble keeping my commitments, even if they entail being somewhere at 7am or partaking in the standardized work day. Getting up "early" and forcing my self to sleep before it's time is not optimal for my functioning, however. I fail to see how doing something sub-optimal is supposed to be a sign of heroism.
Joe Conway asserts that nobody functions well within the Standardized Sleep Cycle, which is simply wrong factually but more importantly if he actually believes this nonsense it's mind-bendingly malicious of him to advocate something that has no upside just because it's more macho.
To the douchebag author: Having a different sleep rhythm does not mean someone is a sissy. It doesn't mean they're lazy or unable to keep appointments. Your whole post is a huge straw man argument, and it's unpleasant to read due to you being so full of yourself.
Let me close this comment in my time-honored tradition of pissing off both sides equally: I think those fuzzy syndromes and disorders are bullshit. Humans are diverse, we're not as standardized as evolutionary psychologists would have everyone believe. Stop trying to be "normal", stop trying to make others "normal". Being "not normal" is not by itself a disorder or acronym-worthy.
Having a different default circadian rhythm does not mean you're sick. Nor does calling people sissies make you more manly, but that's for a different discussion.
[+] [-] coryfoo|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Yver|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] LnxPrgr3|13 years ago|reply
That isn't an excuse to stop trying—there are things you can do that often help: a combination of correctly timed melatonin and light therapy can shift your circadian rhythm back towards normal. Nonetheless, it's an actual medical condition.
To everyone else: if you think you have this problem, do something about it. There's a healthy chance you can fix it.
[+] [-] Anderkent|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] lwhalen|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] plorkyeran|13 years ago|reply
Nope! I regularly spring out of bed feeling wide awake, well rested and ready to start the day a good hour or two before I need to get up to get to work on time, and that time immediately after waking up in the morning is often my favorite part of the day.
Of course, the flipside of this is that I'm often ready to pass out by 9 PM.
[+] [-] sp332|13 years ago|reply
If you're in a coma, is that your fault? If you have narcolepsy, is it your fault? If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push, is that your fault? If you have a medical condition that makes it harder for you to wake up than for 99.8% of the population, is that your fault? There's a line somewhere, and I don't think the author of the original article crossed it.
[+] [-] alexjeffrey|13 years ago|reply
Note, I was in and out of specialist children's hospitals for a good year or two while doctors tried to diagnose the reason my brain works differently to theirs. I have a certain set of psychological challenges I have to overcome, but I don't sit around whining about it all day.
[+] [-] teej|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] rgbrenner|13 years ago|reply
Possibly.. why are you in a coma?
[+] [-] criley|13 years ago|reply
It seems like you're pulling out all the stops to avoid the uncomfortable point: the vast, vast majority of us are normal and don't have a convenient excuse for our poor sleep habits.
>If you wake up having hit a snooze button that you didn't consciously push, is that your fault?
Absolutely. 1000%. Move your alarm. Hide it. Make it not turn off until you do math problems. Have a friend call you. Set your computer to set off such an unholy alarm that your neighbors will hear. Buy one of those alarm helicopters that flies around the room until you catch it. Do what you have to do.
It is your responsibility and yours alone to wake up early enough to meet the obligations that you made for yourself.
Period.
[+] [-] 3am|13 years ago|reply
Otherwise a good rant.
edit: credit also to Babbage and Lovelace (also English)
[+] [-] ojbyrne|13 years ago|reply
Not to invalid your point, just that its quibbles all the way down.
[+] [-] _delirium|13 years ago|reply
Plus, attacking other people as lazy doesn't mean you yourself have to put in the work to familiarize yourself with history before making historical claims. Going to the library is too hard for my generation.
[+] [-] Dewie|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] yid|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] _delirium|13 years ago|reply
HN is actually quite good on technical issues. People disagree, but it's rarely completely idiotic. There is smart stuff, and information is exchanged, and the overall level of debate is good.
But on philosophical issues, it's frankly not very good. There is a lot of knee-jerk bigotry. I mean this post leads by calling people "sissies", a clearly homophobic term. It also has a complete disinterest in science, and is longer on trolling and provocation than reason or intelligence. It worked. Got to #1 on HN!
Simple sound-bites, strong opinions, and posts that I can only really describe as in the "lifehacking" genre on the one hand, or the "political/social provocation" genre on the other hand, are what's the worst about HN. These are usually embarrassing at best. And in the best case they get flagged off the front page. The moderators are also clearly worried, because provocative titles often get changed, which sometimes leads to the posts fizzling without being flagged. Reduces damage, at least.
Anyway, as you say, time for a break. I'm sick of Joe Conway and his ilk of arrogant, ignorant assholes. Before chiding other people for being lazy, maybe these ignorant fucks should get off their asses and visit a library. They aren't stupid, but they're ignorant. Science and intelligence is about more than blogging whatever comes to the top of your head after 10 minutes of thought. You need to read. You need to think a bit about whether the first reaction that comes to mind is correct: is this really the position you want to write a manifesto about? Do you have data to support your contention that an alleged condition is imagined and actually the people are just lazy losers, and "suck it up" is a good prescription? Or are you just expressing a reactionary, right-wing political view borne more out of politics and prejudice than rationality and evidence?
[+] [-] jules|13 years ago|reply
> We used to value hard work. It was the cornerstone of our society. We invented computing, the telephone, the automobile and modern medicine. We invaded Normandy. We traveled to the moon.
Sounds like history was invented in the US too, by Joe Conway. Computing was invented by Alan Turing (incidentally a gay man) or Chales Babbage, both of which are from Britain. The telephone was incrementally invented by many people, some of them from the US but most not [1]. In particular, Graham Bell was born in Britain, lived in Canada, then in the US, and then again in Canada. The automobile was invented by Ferdinand Verbiest from Belgium. Modern medicine was invented by (among many others) Louis Pasteur, a Frenchman. Most of the troops in the invasion of Normandy were not from the US. The first spacecraft to the moon was from the Soviet Union.
The rest of the post isn't any better.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_of_the_telephone
[+] [-] jradakov|13 years ago|reply
If trying like hell not to have to wake up early in the morning makes someone a sissy, then I'm the king of sissies.
This reminds me of a quote from Crowfoot, once a chief of the Blackfoot tribe:
"What is life? It is the flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the winter time. It is as the little shadow that runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset."
Life's short. Enjoy it. If that means not waking up at a certain time, then don't. But, also, don't complain when you have to deal with the consequences.
[+] [-] thirdtruck|13 years ago|reply
* Do you actually get enough sleep? Can you show when you actually went to bed and when you got back out?
* Do you avoid bright, blue lights (e.g. florescent bulbs or monitors without Flux) close to bed time?
* Do you have a ritual of some kind that gets your mind and body ready for bed?
* Have you had an actual sleep study checking for sleep apnea?
* Does your diet or other factors give you heartburn or other physiological sleep interrupts?
If you can devote 1-3 weeks to checking one of these at a time, that can address a lot of sleep issues.
[+] [-] russelluresti|13 years ago|reply
He's not saying "it's not your fault." He's saying you have a real medical condition that needs to be treated. He also points out how to treat it and manage the condition, so that people will not continue to have their oversleeping issues.
What you're saying in response amounts to telling a person with depression that they're a buzz kill and should just cheer up.
People need to understand that chemicals play a huge part of how our body functions, and that not everyone has the same chemistry going on in their bodies. These chemical abnormalities can have a huge impact on your life and show up under a wide range of different conditions - depression, anxiety, bi-polar, ADHD, etc. These are real conditions caused by real physical things and, just because you can't see them as obviously as a broken arm, doesn't mean they're not real.
Your ignorance and lack of understanding isn't a virtue. It's not something to be proud of. Educate yourself.
[+] [-] regis|13 years ago|reply
And I welcome this change with open arms. Hard work in itself is not a goal and shouldn't be treated as such.
[+] [-] philhippus|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] nixy|13 years ago|reply
Don't eat a late dinner. Eat before 7 pm. Go to bed between 9.30 and 10.30 pm. If you want, use the time before second sleep[1] to catch up on reading. Get up when your alarm rings at 6 am. Every damn day.
These are all points you certainly can control yourself.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep
[+] [-] rgbrenner|13 years ago|reply
[+] [-] SurfScore|13 years ago|reply
People like the OP are the reason we can't have nice things.
[+] [-] chc|13 years ago|reply
If you believe that life should be hard, then you are welcome to make things hard for yourself. Personally, when something is hard, I treat that as a problem to be solved so that living a good life is as easy as possible. I think my approach will be more fruitful in the end, but hey, it's your life.
[+] [-] stephengillie|13 years ago|reply
By being late, you're communicating that your job isn't the most important thing in your life. If that's true, we should be honest about it.
Every generation is full of the weak and the strong. We're all weak in some ways and strong in others. We've learned to subsidize one another.
[+] [-] jck|13 years ago|reply