"Another big selling point of the Asha 501 is definitely represented by its battery life, as it has an astonishing 17 hours talk time and up to 48 days of standby"
I challenge you to find something comparable on the sites you've linked in terms of battery life.
I think there was a quad core 1080p Chinese phone for $160, too. Considering these are running Symbian, that's a lot less value for buck compared to an Android one, even if the price is "low".
EDIT: This one iOcean X7 - quad core 1.2 Cortex A7, 1080p screen, PowerVR 5XT (1080p video support), 2 GB of RAM, 13 MP camera. Now that's impressive. And it doesn't look too bad either:
Don’t underestimate Symbian and the quality of apps available even for niche products. Sure, Android and iOS might get the newest fanciest things in the Valley, but as long as your expectations are not too uncommon, you will find decent apps for nearly every usecase. Add to this that Nokia still has some high-quality apps themselves (Nokia Maps, e.g.) and the fact that Symbian has been around for a long time, and you shouldn’t have too many problems from an app perspective with these phones.
I mean, even the hardly-sold N9 has apps for just about everything (and fifty trillion more things only insane people with too much time on their hands could want).
To be perfectly honest, I have seen quite a few Chinese no name Android phones and I have never been impressed by any of them. On paper, everything looks great, but the reality differs a lot: stolen design, bad build quality, poor screen resolution/contrast/responsiveness, slow, under-performing battery, etc.
The 401 is not pathetic at all. It includes everything people from emerging country needs: a nice design with robust material, a solid battery life, and an OS good enough for Internet, and social network usage.
I'm not going to start the OS talk. From my point of view yes, Android is better if you want functionality and stuff like that.
On the other hand, I give my vote for the build quality, the design, color and why not, even for the platform. It may held certain tricks that will prove reliable in daily use.
Unlike the author, I still see this phone as a back-up. But I wouldn't say the same for my smaller sister.
Indeed, the first one is good, but second one - Starting at: $219.00 + it's a no name. the same about the rest of them. archos' interesting though. but no, asha 501 is not pathetic at all
Think of the difference between a namebrand and a white label.
If you get a bland cheap Chinese android phone, everyone will know it and you'll lose face. An Asha is a bit more classier, well designed, higher quality, still very affordable.
Looks like a nicely engineered _PHONE_ with dual sim capability and can also check your emails/web sites/etc. To top it off they come with a battery LIFE that puts the whole industry to shame!
I think you are greatly overestimating the power of "android smartphones"; especially the cheap Chinese stuff. The hype is impressive.
Many people just want a _reliable_ phone they don't need to worry about charging every 12 hours. After having used a "smart phone" for 6 months I'm back to my cheap 4 years old Nokia phone: makes calls, receives calls, needs charging once a week (also does radio and flashlight, how cool is that!).
This "used-car salesman" undertone, wordily mulling over the same points, and over the top praise are very typical of most Indian magazines and newspapers even. I'm not trying to be nasty here, even I am Indian and not a native speaker of English. I just find this style of writing very amusing and can recognize it anywhere. :-)
EDIT: I was wrong about 'recognizing it anywhere', this article isn't from an Indian publication. No offense.
For all the non-impressed people.
It was unveiled in New Delhi, meaning it focus group isn't western world. It is not meant for you, who already own a smartphone.
And for its focus group, it is pretty darn impressive. Battery life for people who don't have toilet, not mentioning wall outlets.
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I think it would be perfect phone for kids first phone. Simple, cheap, good battery, durable.
On a conceptual level, I like the approach of building up a mini-smartphone from the bare essentials. A few years back Nokia acquired a company called Smarterphone that was doing this[1], and this updated Asha platform is apparently the first fruits of the acquisition.
The alternative is to take the "kitchen-sink" platform of Android which is actively developed for quad-core phones and full-HD displays, and try to pare it down to run on low-end hardware that's an order of magnitude slower and also has an order of magnitude less pixels to work with... While still preserving compatibility with half a million existing apps.
That's of course pretty much impossible, so instead the super-cheap Android devices are running old software from several years ago with extra limitations imposed by the low-end platform.
The difference in the two approaches is analoguous to Windows RT vs. iOS on tablets -- the other party tries to cut down the full system for cheaper devices, while the other builds up from software that's been proven on smaller devices.
Interesting to see lots of influence from the N9. The interface seems quite good on this one, there's a little demonstration by Peter Skillman, starting at about 2:00: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6iMsePF0kk
If by "free access to facebook" they mean no data charge for facebook access for the lifetime of the phone, I wouldn't be surprised by this being a hit with the college crowd... especially if the camera is decent.
ZTE produces tons of Android devices for this amount or slightly less. The ZTE Blade being one example: which has been out three or four years.
This seems less "impressive" and more "impressive marketing." Why are we reading about this? How does it advance anything? A worse phone for slightly more money, because it has "Nokia" on the front?
[+] [-] RyanZAG|13 years ago|reply
http://androidandme.com/2013/04/smartphones-2/archos-reveals...
http://www.androidforcheap.com/cell-phone-android-phone-c-58...
http://www.pandawill.com/mobile-phone-c1/android-os-phone-c5...
etc. Just Google around for tons more.
Generally better in just about every way, and running a real OS that can run real apps.
[+] [-] eliasmacpherson|13 years ago|reply
I challenge you to find something comparable on the sites you've linked in terms of battery life.
[+] [-] mtgx|13 years ago|reply
EDIT: This one iOcean X7 - quad core 1.2 Cortex A7, 1080p screen, PowerVR 5XT (1080p video support), 2 GB of RAM, 13 MP camera. Now that's impressive. And it doesn't look too bad either:
http://android-sale.com/iocean-x7-phone.html
[+] [-] claudius|13 years ago|reply
Don’t underestimate Symbian and the quality of apps available even for niche products. Sure, Android and iOS might get the newest fanciest things in the Valley, but as long as your expectations are not too uncommon, you will find decent apps for nearly every usecase. Add to this that Nokia still has some high-quality apps themselves (Nokia Maps, e.g.) and the fact that Symbian has been around for a long time, and you shouldn’t have too many problems from an app perspective with these phones.
I mean, even the hardly-sold N9 has apps for just about everything (and fifty trillion more things only insane people with too much time on their hands could want).
[+] [-] moystard|13 years ago|reply
The 401 is not pathetic at all. It includes everything people from emerging country needs: a nice design with robust material, a solid battery life, and an OS good enough for Internet, and social network usage.
[+] [-] AlexSerban|13 years ago|reply
On the other hand, I give my vote for the build quality, the design, color and why not, even for the platform. It may held certain tricks that will prove reliable in daily use.
Unlike the author, I still see this phone as a back-up. But I wouldn't say the same for my smaller sister.
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If you get a bland cheap Chinese android phone, everyone will know it and you'll lose face. An Asha is a bit more classier, well designed, higher quality, still very affordable.
[+] [-] Nux|13 years ago|reply
Looks like a nicely engineered _PHONE_ with dual sim capability and can also check your emails/web sites/etc. To top it off they come with a battery LIFE that puts the whole industry to shame!
I think you are greatly overestimating the power of "android smartphones"; especially the cheap Chinese stuff. The hype is impressive.
Many people just want a _reliable_ phone they don't need to worry about charging every 12 hours. After having used a "smart phone" for 6 months I'm back to my cheap 4 years old Nokia phone: makes calls, receives calls, needs charging once a week (also does radio and flashlight, how cool is that!).
[+] [-] ultimoo|13 years ago|reply
EDIT: I was wrong about 'recognizing it anywhere', this article isn't from an Indian publication. No offense.
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[+] [-] DocG|13 years ago|reply
And for its focus group, it is pretty darn impressive. Battery life for people who don't have toilet, not mentioning wall outlets.
edit: I think it would be perfect phone for kids first phone. Simple, cheap, good battery, durable.
[+] [-] pavlov|13 years ago|reply
The alternative is to take the "kitchen-sink" platform of Android which is actively developed for quad-core phones and full-HD displays, and try to pare it down to run on low-end hardware that's an order of magnitude slower and also has an order of magnitude less pixels to work with... While still preserving compatibility with half a million existing apps.
That's of course pretty much impossible, so instead the super-cheap Android devices are running old software from several years ago with extra limitations imposed by the low-end platform.
The difference in the two approaches is analoguous to Windows RT vs. iOS on tablets -- the other party tries to cut down the full system for cheaper devices, while the other builds up from software that's been proven on smaller devices.
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[1] According to previous reports, the Smarterphone OS had an app platform written in Scheme! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smarterphone
...I doubt anything of that survives in the Asha platform, but it would be cool to do low-end smartphone apps in Lisp :)
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The catch is the videos/photos are not free, nor are the links to other websites of course.
[+] [-] UnoriginalGuy|13 years ago|reply
This seems less "impressive" and more "impressive marketing." Why are we reading about this? How does it advance anything? A worse phone for slightly more money, because it has "Nokia" on the front?
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