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Al-Qaida said to be changing its ways after leaks

21 points| ics | 12 years ago |hosted.ap.org | reply

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[+] miles|12 years ago|reply
Gotta love this bit:

The officials wouldn't go into details on how they know this

C'mon guys, put a little more effort into your disinformation campaign! I mean, even Bloomberg carried this the other day:

U.S. Surveillance Is Not Aimed at Terrorists http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-23/u-s-surveillance-is...

C'mon! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5BMQ-xpTog

[+] vichu|12 years ago|reply
I actually laughed after reading that line. Sometimes you really have to wonder how ridiculous this whole debacle is getting.
[+] mark_l_watson|12 years ago|reply
+1 Miles, well said.

All things considered, including economic, terrorist, military industrial complex mega over reach, etc, I feel like our government's actions are making us much less safe. Just my personal opinion.

[+] codex|12 years ago|reply
Unfortunate but consistent with the the theme of the article: if terrorists are adjusting due to leaks, the last thing an intelligence operative would do is leak details which would cause further adjustments.
[+] tzs|12 years ago|reply
What part do you find hard to believe? That a spy agency might have access to information that you do not? Or that spy targets would not make use of leaked information about how the spy agency operates? Or that a spy agency might not want to tell you how it acquired some information?
[+] fnordfnordfnord|12 years ago|reply
Let me guess, they no longer sign emails with "Death to America"

And this "The officials spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to speak about the intelligence matters publicly."

Shouldn't that be "traitorous leakers"?

[+] themgt|12 years ago|reply
Definitely. By letting al-Qaida know that we know that they know that we're spying on them - irregardless of the PR benefits for the NSA - these rogue leakers have caused irreparable harm to our nation and will certainly be pursued with as much vigor as Mr. Snowden /hamburger
[+] Mikeb85|12 years ago|reply
Not unexpected from the US government, claim Al-Qaeda is benefiting from the leaks without offering any sort of proof beyond conjecture...

I'm sure that, prior to the leak, terrorists were having Skype conferences from their living rooms, while posting their activities on Facebook and exchanging bomb recipes on Gmail....

And then of course, the Boston bombing suspects were identified to the US government by Russian agents, and they couldn't prevent that attack. Either the NSA, CIA and FBI are staffed by imbeciles, or someone's lying to the people...

[+] x0x0|12 years ago|reply

   It is the first time intelligence officials have described which groups are 
   reacting to the leaks. The officials spoke anonymously because they were not 
   authorized to speak about the intelligence matters publicly
Ooh. Gonna be holding my breath waiting for the Obama administration to diligently find these leakers. Unless -- and I'm sure this is coincidence -- prosecutions are correlated with in what light leaks frame the administration? Nah, couldn't be.
[+] zwegner|12 years ago|reply
So now that The Terrorists are changing it up, might as well dismantle the surveillance state, huh? What good does capturing all this data do if they're not going to get anything useful?

The cognitive dissonance required to justify these programs is just staggering.

[+] malandrew|12 years ago|reply
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the source of this article originally said "People on the internet start using encryption and other privacy-protecting techniques to keep their communications secret from the NSA" and the media spun it to be "[Al Quaida/Terrorists] on the internet start using encryption and other privacy-protecting techniques to keep their communications secret from the NSA" because that gets more eyeballs.
[+] paulwithap|12 years ago|reply
My high school pot dealer refused to do any deals over the phone. I highly doubt terrorist plots were being hatched over Skype.
[+] gulfie|12 years ago|reply
And anyone who is now suddenly communicating differently is flagged as a posible terrorist, or at least someone who has something that needs investigating. Watching the progress of communication patterns changing must be fascinating. If the alternate forms of communication are also compromised that'll be even better.

Action and reaction.

[+] charonn0|12 years ago|reply

    [...]the NSA will catch up eventually, he predicted, because there are only
    so many ways a terrorist can communicate. "I have every confidence in 
    their ability to regain access."
So now NSA is the injured party?
[+] ethanazir|12 years ago|reply
Al-Qaida don't need to communicate: read the Qu'ran; if you believe it says take up arms then you're in; no need to e-mail anybody.
[+] ipsin|12 years ago|reply
Abhorrent conduct can also have benefits: News at 11.

When the CIA stopped(?) waterboarding suspects, I bet they got fewer terrorism leads, too.

There are some lines we never should have crossed.

[+] TheRubyist|12 years ago|reply
Even Al-Qaida is trying to discredit his move ?
[+] Zircom|12 years ago|reply
Al-Qaida is not a person. Either you accidentally used the wrong pronoun, or perhaps you're confused as to what Al-Qaida refers to.
[+] mindslight|12 years ago|reply
I just wish our local terrorists, the US Government, would do the same.
[+] ethanazir|12 years ago|reply
Why no body post on al-qada facebook page no more?
[+] throwaway10001|12 years ago|reply
AP - The Official NSA Public Relations Organization

Yeah, Al Qaeda didn't know that NSA listens and reads to their communications. That's why Bin Laden used couriers to personally deliver thumbdrives and had no telephone or internet.

[+] zwegner|12 years ago|reply
It's amazing that the AP would so eagerly accept these anonymous government officials' stories after they were specifically targeted by the FBI, what was it, a month ago?

Why grant these people anonymity, when all they're doing is spouting out government-serving platitudes with zero evidence or justification for keeping their identities secret?

[+] codex|12 years ago|reply
True, but it would likely be impractical to use couriers to communicate between Al Qaeda H.Q. to any Al Qaeda cells in the U.S., or even in an adjacent country.