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Final Fantasy VII is available on Steam

81 points| ValentineC | 12 years ago |store.steampowered.com | reply

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[+] lmm|12 years ago|reply
I still have my original discs but it's such a pain getting it to run on anything newer than WinME that I'd given up trying to play it.

Is the rendering performance OK? Are the movies intact? Do you get the choral music that was only accessible to people who had a creative card with soundfont support?

Also, this reminds me of several video gaming magazine jokes:

    Character Booster – Find yourself stuck on a difficult section or lacking the funds to buy that vital Phoenix Down? With the Character Booster you can increase your HP, MP and Gil levels to their maximum, all with the simple click of a button, leaving you to enjoy your adventure.
[+] Torn|12 years ago|reply
The music is the same as Enix's old version, i.e. MIDI and not nearly as good as the original PSX music. There's a mod for that though - google Ficedula's music patch
[+] frankcaron|12 years ago|reply
FYI: The Steam version of the game still has a phone-home, always-online DRM which requires you to maintain connectivity in order to play. This is not the standard Steam DRM.
[+] Sprint|12 years ago|reply
I was about to buy Chrono Trigger for my Android the other day but luckily I read through reviews before. It too requires an online authentication at least at every start. I passed.
[+] gordaco|12 years ago|reply
Thank you, this is the information I was looking for. They won't have my money, then.

Why is it so difficult to do GOG-like releases? I would buy things like this with my eyes closed.

[+] kiiski|12 years ago|reply
Still? I bought the game from Square a few months ago, and it works perfectly without internet connection. I don't know about this Steam version though.
[+] Shish2k|12 years ago|reply
Still waiting for a proper HD rerelease - fans have already hacked the game to load high-res character models / sprites / menus / etc; but it looks silly with 1080p characters wandering round a 320p world :(

How hard can it be to re-render an already-created CG scene with a few more pixels?

[+] uween|12 years ago|reply
This is the hi-res model re-release. It looks like it's identical to the one square released last year, but available via Steam instead of Square. It has all the updated models of the hacked versions and (slightly) improved sound quality, plus a few new `features' like cloud-saving (anti-feature?) and character boosting (who knows).

I bought the square version and the cloud-saving was pretty awful, you sometimes had to wait up to 10 mins to contact their server and save the game. I can only imagine they've fixed that for this release.

[+] archangel_one|12 years ago|reply
Quite hard, because all the backgrounds are bitmaps. It's an unfortunate era for that - Final Fantasy X looks fantastic on a modern system, because it can be rerendered at higher resolution.
[+] Cthulhu_|12 years ago|reply
> How hard can it be to re-render an already-created CG scene with a few more pixels?

Quite tricky, seeing that Square-Enix no longer has the original source files to re-render these. A proper re-release would require artists to remake the environments from scratch (based on concept art or the original game).

[+] Skoofoo|12 years ago|reply
You should stick with the original. Remakes have higher resolution graphics, but at the cost of the creative passion that went into the original games.
[+] mariusmg|12 years ago|reply
If the FFX/FFX-2 remake will sell, i'm sure they also do VII.

The problem with these remakes is that the original assets are in crappy resolutions so they'll basically have to remake everything. And that takes time. And Square is not exactly known as being a efficient company.....

[+] duiker101|12 years ago|reply
> Still waiting for a proper HD

I am sure it will come out in the same period of the pokemon MMORPG

[+] donutdan4114|12 years ago|reply
My all-time favorite game. Got it for PC in 1997, and it changed my life.
[+] KeliNorth|12 years ago|reply
Ditto. Ditto. For emphasis. Thank you for liking FF7. It's been a fad for the past 5-10 years for people to say "I don't know why everybody likes it, it wasn't that great." They are not correct.

The only game I've played through more times is Ocarina of Time - I rarely replay games, especially very long ones. Especially more than twice. FF7 has been the only exception.

I didn't have a psx, couldn't afford it back then, but I had a PC and got the PC version shortly after it had come out. It was my first FF game.

Stories like to have heroes, give them flaws, mess with them, and then miraculously help them win. The monomyth/hero's journey being the framework.

I don't know if any FF messed with their main character as much as Cloud. Well, they were on a streak after FF6 (Female protagonist who was definitely different from not just other games, but even her fellow party members... man they had good writing) The guy was messed up. Very bad things happened to him. Many times. People died, and not just for shock value.

Some of it has been overhyped, and so the backlash against overhype has caused too many people to rate it lower than it deserves. Others expect too great of things and are disappointed when FF7 doesn't floor them - after all, they are told the title is one of the best RPGs of all time. It is, but it's impossible to look at it nowadays without already having an expectation in mind.

Back then, when we were still young and living off RPGs after school, some fantastic games were made. Some, like FF7 and Xenogears and Chrono Trigger were life-altering. These are the reasons why I want to work as a creator. They are the reasons why I love good entertainment and good writing.

They established the tropes. They get a pass on having the tropes used against them. Man, I always feel like writing a treatise when FF7 crops up. I loved the game, but I was never a full-on fanatic of it. It just deserves some love for it's age.

[+] alinajaf|12 years ago|reply
Yep. I'm perpetually waiting for square to get their shit together and just give us what we want: A frame-by-frame remake with PS4 generation graphics.
[+] wjoe|12 years ago|reply
Does this still use Square's DRM, or is it all handled by Steam now? I was playing the re-release through Wine on Linux last year, but the DRM workarounds made it activate as a new PC each time it started. Since it has an activation limit, I got locked out after a few launches.
[+] Shish2k|12 years ago|reply
Relatedly, does it use Square's "Cloud Saves" (ho ho ho)? I've got the square version, but it was largely unplayable because you when the cloud servers are down / timing out (as was the case 9 times out of 10), the load / save functionality would be disabled (can't even load or save local files :-/). And then after playing for ~20 hours, the game decided to overwrite my save file with a cloud backup from ~19 hours ago...
[+] markolschesky|12 years ago|reply
Remember how the original PC version always crashed at the chocobo races if you tried running it on Windows XP? I remember being so bummed about that until someone released a patch for it on the internet. What did we do before automatic game patches?
[+] radikalus|12 years ago|reply
I remember when the demo for FF7 was released alongside Brave Fencer; I think I played that demo alone 50+ times. Completely changed my expectations on how immersive/cinematic/emotive games could be.
[+] EpicEng|12 years ago|reply
The demo was released with Tobal No.1, not Musashi. I also played the crap out of that demo. It was amazing for its time having just come from the SNES.
[+] gpcz|12 years ago|reply
Wasn't FF8 released along Brave Fencer Musashi?
[+] rcruzeiro|12 years ago|reply
PC only? Really square? I guess it would be really difficult to port those amazing, cut-edge graphics to opengl...
[+] toyg|12 years ago|reply
I guess the business plan was something like "let's make this old win32 code run on win7 and ship the fucker", rather than any well-thought-out long-term effort...
[+] zokier|12 years ago|reply
Yes, it would be quite significant effort.
[+] frankcaron|12 years ago|reply
This PC version was actually released over a decade ago; it's pretty ghetto and old. That said, it Wine-wraps decently.

The same treatment was given to FFVIII, as well, so it likely won't be long before it joins its predecessor on the Steam store (its appearance leaked in the registry moons ago).

[+] hansbogert|12 years ago|reply
Ow c'mon Steam, you were on your way to support Linux so well -- windows only :(
[+] omni|12 years ago|reply
Valve had literally zero input into this decision, so direct your frustration at Square Enix instead.
[+] sergiotapia|12 years ago|reply
Why are they charging so much for such an old game?
[+] Cthulhu_|12 years ago|reply
Simple: because people are willing to pay for it. People pay fortunes for vintage toys because their parents got rid of them two+ decades ago and they want to relive their youth and have expendable income. Similarly, people want to relive their youth from 15-20 years ago with video games, and are willing to re-buy a version of the game that runs on modern-day systems.

Re-releases of old / 'vintage' video games are quite popular on Steam, allowing the owners of the rights of said games to sell them again with relatively small investments. This also happens on modern consoles (PSN on the PS3, etc), which no longer have backwards compatibility, so that the game manufacturers port the game to modern systems (at minimal investment) and sell them again. Optionally rendering the game at a higher resolution and calling it a HD re-release.

[+] EpicEng|12 years ago|reply
I have always loved (J)RPG's. I tend to think of them more as great books than simple games. Graphical quality is typically not of much importance for us who love this sort of game. Old or not, it is a great game, and we'll pay for it.
[+] lmm|12 years ago|reply
A nontrivial number of people consider it to be the best game of all time. If you compare to other media there are plenty of old books or music albums that sell at full price.