The Documents library even uses the SkyDrive location as its default write location, so any file saved to the Documents library will automatically go on SkyDrive.
Most office workers won't even notice this. Any time someone hits save in Word, their document is sent directly to the NSA for review. This is like the 'url bar goes to google' problem in Chrome, but 1000x worse.
I hope they will use NSA logo as documents library icon to increase the irony. I wonder if SkyDrive is being partially subsidized by three letter agencies...
I am a win8 fanboy, but this is unnerving. Anyway, at least in the home environment, I can still use Local user account, and just not login to Skydrive, right?
The NSA backdoor is terrible in its own way (what business wants its documents to go straight to NSA?!), but remember this from a while ago? You now have to be careful what you keep in your own computer (privately), because if it goes straight to Skydrive, Microsoft might delete it:
> "After contact with Microsoft support he found out that his account was blocked because there was a folder on his SkyDrive that contained content which was not allowed by the code of conduct of Microsoft SkyDrive. The folder was a private folder, not shared to anyone else.
Microsoft reserves the right to suspend an account for any reason, and two months of trying to fix the issue did not result in any resolution."
I don't think I like the part where it mocks up your UI to look like your files have synced, but they're not actually sitting on your drive.
I've been burned enough times by "Delayed Write", where you stick a bunch of files on a USB drive, pull it out and hop in the car, while back on your machine it pops up a little box saying "Whoa! hold up! we didn't actually copy any of those files yet, even though we said we had." This seems like another version of that same idea, except this time designed to leave me without any of the music and video I'd "synced" onto my new road machine right before hopping that month-long riverboat down the Congo.
Given a choice, I think I'd prefer that my machine actually did the things with my files that I've told it to do. Copy them when I copy them, sync them when I sync them. I hope there's an option to do that here.
They will delete your account if you upload pornographic images. Since your data is private, the only possble reason for this policy is to make the job of spies more comfortable. The way it's meant to be.
Cloud storage the way it’s meant to be? Without client-side encryption support? Hmm...
BTW, can someone share the experience regarding the syncing speed? Lastly I had been evaluating both Dropbox and Skydrive, I found the DB to be quicker to upload modified files - the uploading started almost immediately, which was not the case with Skydrive.
"Cloud storage the way it’s meant to be" - what a frickin joke!
They should be ashamed of themselves to come up with such subjects after all that has happened!
I signed up to say this. I was a SkyDrive customer. Problems I've had:
1. I uploaded a legitimate Office 2010 ISO image to it from MSDN as I was installing it on a non-corporate networked test machine (sandbox). Next day it was gone.
2. I uploaded a few purchased MP3s to it so I could transfer them to work. When I got there, they were gone.
3. I tried to cancel my account. Every cancellation page fails with "I have one or more Microsoft Billing account subscriptions active. Please stop these first". I have never had any paid subscription service and there is nothing listed in Microsoft billing.
4. Attempts to contact support have resulted in sitting on the phone for 4 hours. Email support replies with canned messages. Complaining on forums on their web site has no effect either.
You have been warned.
Don't put your data in it or deal with them, even if you don't care about the NSA stuff.
Serious, snark-free question: is this a paid review by Microsoft? I've never been an Arstechnica reader but I thought they had more integrity than this.
Talking up SkyDrive is like extolling the virtues of ivory from elephant tusks. In both cases there is a horrible hidden cost.
"The files themselves use the reparse point mechanism first introduced in Windows 2000. During that first sync, stub files ("reparse points") are created to mimic the directory structure stored on SkyDrive. Any operation on these
files is intercepted automatically, allowing SkyDrive to download the file on-demand."
Being a long-time luser, I hadn't heard of NTFS reparse points before. Somehow, every time I read something about NTFS features, it strikes me how well thought-out that FS is, especially for its time.
I'm actually interested in this. I'm out of space on my Macbook Air, but I have gigabytes of photos that I'd like to be able to use with Aperture or Lightroom without using an external drive.
Has anyone tried a solution to mount an online server/drive/storage as a network drive in order to do the same things that this new SkyDrive will do?
I just can't trust any big corp after the whole NSA thing. Never. Period. Unless they take some very drastic steps. This looks pretty slick, but I can never use this. I hope microsoft and others are reading this. All the recent flack has seriously damaged public image, at least in the power user world.
Cloud storage should, first of all, be OS agnostic, secondly it should be content agnostic (meaning the provider doesn't review the content for compliance to its policies). Skydrive fails on both counts.
[+] [-] RyanZAG|12 years ago|reply
The Documents library even uses the SkyDrive location as its default write location, so any file saved to the Documents library will automatically go on SkyDrive.
Most office workers won't even notice this. Any time someone hits save in Word, their document is sent directly to the NSA for review. This is like the 'url bar goes to google' problem in Chrome, but 1000x worse.
[+] [-] flexie|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] option_greek|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] damian2000|12 years ago|reply
EDIT: assume you only need to sign up for a SkyDrive account. All of the desktop integration is enabled by default.
[+] [-] greyman|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] mtgx|12 years ago|reply
> "After contact with Microsoft support he found out that his account was blocked because there was a folder on his SkyDrive that contained content which was not allowed by the code of conduct of Microsoft SkyDrive. The folder was a private folder, not shared to anyone else.
Microsoft reserves the right to suspend an account for any reason, and two months of trying to fix the issue did not result in any resolution."
http://wmpoweruser.com/watch-what-you-store-on-skydriveyou-m...
[+] [-] unknown|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] woe|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] jasonkester|12 years ago|reply
I've been burned enough times by "Delayed Write", where you stick a bunch of files on a USB drive, pull it out and hop in the car, while back on your machine it pops up a little box saying "Whoa! hold up! we didn't actually copy any of those files yet, even though we said we had." This seems like another version of that same idea, except this time designed to leave me without any of the music and video I'd "synced" onto my new road machine right before hopping that month-long riverboat down the Congo.
Given a choice, I think I'd prefer that my machine actually did the things with my files that I've told it to do. Copy them when I copy them, sync them when I sync them. I hope there's an option to do that here.
[+] [-] boduh|12 years ago|reply
And yes, I know the USB drive scenario, I got burned myself many times.
[+] [-] antninja|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] greyman|12 years ago|reply
BTW, can someone share the experience regarding the syncing speed? Lastly I had been evaluating both Dropbox and Skydrive, I found the DB to be quicker to upload modified files - the uploading started almost immediately, which was not the case with Skydrive.
[+] [-] Nux|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] josteink|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] forkrulassail|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] harrytuttle|12 years ago|reply
1. I uploaded a legitimate Office 2010 ISO image to it from MSDN as I was installing it on a non-corporate networked test machine (sandbox). Next day it was gone.
2. I uploaded a few purchased MP3s to it so I could transfer them to work. When I got there, they were gone.
3. I tried to cancel my account. Every cancellation page fails with "I have one or more Microsoft Billing account subscriptions active. Please stop these first". I have never had any paid subscription service and there is nothing listed in Microsoft billing.
4. Attempts to contact support have resulted in sitting on the phone for 4 hours. Email support replies with canned messages. Complaining on forums on their web site has no effect either.
You have been warned.
Don't put your data in it or deal with them, even if you don't care about the NSA stuff.
[+] [-] boduh|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] cmircea|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] unknown|12 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] twentyfourseven|12 years ago|reply
Talking up SkyDrive is like extolling the virtues of ivory from elephant tusks. In both cases there is a horrible hidden cost.
[+] [-] yungchin|12 years ago|reply
Being a long-time luser, I hadn't heard of NTFS reparse points before. Somehow, every time I read something about NTFS features, it strikes me how well thought-out that FS is, especially for its time.
[+] [-] Dylan16807|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] josephers|12 years ago|reply
Has anyone tried a solution to mount an online server/drive/storage as a network drive in order to do the same things that this new SkyDrive will do?
[+] [-] Achshar|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] hereonbusiness|12 years ago|reply
Think about it, free, no size or bandwidth restrictions, and if you use encryption they'll probably keep a backup for you, forever.
[+] [-] LeeHunter|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] contingencies|12 years ago|reply
[+] [-] dschiptsov|12 years ago|reply
How Google Drive is less meant to be cloud storage?)