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Famous Emacs Users (that are not famous for using Emacs)

130 points| Meatball_py | 12 years ago |wenshanren.org

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[+] jf|12 years ago|reply
Neal Stephenson is missing from this list: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/NealStephenson
[+] zach|12 years ago|reply
Also, Ken Jennings writes his weekly trivia challenge in Emacs:

http://www.ken-jennings.com/messageboards/viewtopic.php?p=12...

That's maybe not the ideal endorsement, though. Ken is a great guy, but having the trivia champion of the world saying he is an enthusiastic Emacs user... well, it doesn't improve Emacs' reputation as an editor for lovers of the esoteric.

[+] jf|12 years ago|reply
Whitfield Diffie is also an Emacs user. I once sat behind him at an awards ceremony and was able to observe him hacking on Emacs lisp during the event. That was the highlight of my month.
[+] AimHere|12 years ago|reply
Eben Moglen is also not there - sure he's now a Stallman collaborator and involved with the FSF, but he is 'just' a lawyer and/or law professor - yet in one of his earliest contacts with RMS, he apparently already claimed to use emacs every day.
[+] jpdoctor|12 years ago|reply
> Richard Stallman – the creator of GNU Emacs, the founder of GNU

Did anybody think he was secretly using vi in the closet?

[+] rthomas6|12 years ago|reply
I still think he is. He's too productive not to be.
[+] ezy|12 years ago|reply
How are RMS & JWZ not famous for using emacs? I was expecting more people outside of the usual computer science & industry suspects.
[+] _delirium|12 years ago|reply
Isn't JWZ mainly famous for Netscape (and later the DNA Lounge)? I didn't know he had anything to do with Emacs until I Googled to see what that was about.
[+] michaelhoffman|12 years ago|reply
I agree, several of those people are famous in large part because of their contributions to Emacs.
[+] fsck--off|12 years ago|reply
I find it strange that Daniel Weinreb, Guy Steele and Richard Stallman are on this list. Steele co-wrote ?macs with David Moon and John Kulp. Dan Weinreb was a beta tester on ?macs before Stallman joined the project, and he would later become the first one to write an Emacs in a lisp (EINE). Stallman, of course, created GNU Emacs. Putting them on a list with Assange and Zuckerberg is ridiculous.
[+] tzs|12 years ago|reply
It's a list of people who are (1) famous AND (2) Emacs users AND who would still be famous if they were not Emacs users. Weinreb, Steele, and Stallman all fit this.

Also, you make it sound like Stallman wasn't involved in Emacs from the start. In fact, Stallman and Steele wrote the FIRST Emacs. Everyone else you named came after.

[+] kabdib|12 years ago|reply
Many of the "programmer heavies" at MS used Epsilon (an Emacs clone with quite good Windows integration). To be fair, a lot of them also used vim. Notably, few of them liked Visual Studio all that much.
[+] codex|12 years ago|reply
What's funny is that none of these people are actually working software engineers, at least anymore. Even Linus doesn't write much code. Perhaps that's a consequence of being famous, or necessary to be famous. But it also allows the counter-argument that Emacs has been supplanted by newer editors by active practitioners.
[+] kzrdude|12 years ago|reply
Not famous. Because they are managers or otherwise in senior roles.
[+] RRRA|12 years ago|reply
This is mostly news because of RMS' photo without a beard :D
[+] j_m_b|12 years ago|reply
I never saw a picture of Stallman so young.
[+] ekianjo|12 years ago|reply
There are videos on youtube from his early carrier - with a beard but looking young as well.
[+] hk__2|12 years ago|reply
Does anybody has the same list with vi?
[+] Watabou|12 years ago|reply
Vim not vi.

Or does anyone actually use vi?

[+] wglb|12 years ago|reply
Even though Linus is on this list, it is for using MicroEMACS, which is really not very close to Emacs. Same keybindings, yes, but significantly smaller editor. Certainly less powerful than most any version of VI.

I have MicroEMACS running on my HP200lx.

Disclaimer: I worked with Dave Conroy, the author of MicroEMACS for a short while.

[+] unknownian|12 years ago|reply
Decently surprising list, at least for me. I think the Torvalds-Stallman relationship got more complicated in my head.
[+] yfefyf|12 years ago|reply
Many of them are famous Lisp programmers. Of course, Lisp grogrammers use Emacs.
[+] wglb|12 years ago|reply
Mostly; Paul Graham being an exception.
[+] saraid216|12 years ago|reply
Is there a list of emacs users who are famous for using emacs?
[+] S4M|12 years ago|reply
Steve Yegge?
[+] imdhmd|12 years ago|reply
very confusing title
[+] baby|12 years ago|reply
Sadly the amount of resource to learn emacs is pretty sparse while it is not for vim.

Also emacs doesn't run properly on windows (at least not on an azerty keyboard)

[+] daat418|12 years ago|reply
Not one of your statements are true. In fact, everything you just said is 100% bullshit.
[+] mickeyp|12 years ago|reply
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