Conversely, suppose this condition is more common than generally appreciated (because it does seem a lot simpler to assume someone is an alcoholic who's being dishonest about the incidence/frequency of their drinking). Could it be that a certain proportion of crime or irresponsible behavior is actually the product of involuntary drunkenness?
On a related note, for a few years now I've been trying to think of a way to organize a clinical survey of Toxoplama Gondii (a parasite transmissible from cats to humans that results in inxreased risk-taking behavior) in prison inmates. While it's true that a lot of criminals are in fact Bad People, I think we have drastically underestimated the impact on criminality of environmental factors like poor diet, parasites and so on.
TL;DR a lot of crime may turn out to be a public health problem.
Here's one even more unethical: a prison gang taking these alcoholics as slaves, and milking them, so to speak, to produce alcohol for resale in the prison blackmarket.
In most instances, the infections occurred after a person took antibiotics — which can wipe out the bacteria in the gut, making room for fungi like yeast to flourish ...
While the above is very plausible, it is rather unbelievable that a person could have enough Brewer's Yeast and fermentable material in their gut (or intestinal tract) to produce a significant amount of ethanol.
As a reference, packages of fresh beer yeast contain about one billion cells, which is enough to inoculate five gallons of wort.[1] (Wort is pre-fermented beer.)
You don't have to get it from drinking beer - consider the frequency of yeast infections among women, which is not correlated with employment at breweries or bakeries.
And then there would be an industry for it, which would create perverse incentives to create slave humans in other countries or employ thousands of animals living out their lives in cages just to produce an "odd" beer that people are willing to pay top dollar for to get wasted.
Wow - I've never heard of anything like this before. Pretty incredible what can happen in the body sometimes! It doesn't sound half bad though... getting drunk on a big bowl of spaghetti :)
Antibiotics promote yeast infections, including gastrointestinal Candida overgrowth, and penetration of the GI mucosa.[11] While women are more susceptible to genital yeast infections, men can in fact get them as well. Certain factors, like prolonged antibiotic use, increase the risk for both men and women. ...[1]
I recall reading, perhaps 20 years ago, of a case in Japan where a man showed drunkeness/detectable-blood-alcohol without drinking alcoholic beverages. In that popular account, it was attributed to an intestinal strain of e coli creating alcohol, and a genetic difference (more common in Asia and among Native Americans) that interferes with alcohol-breakdown.
Yeast seems even more likely a culprit, and I see the references in this case study detail Japanese cases/research back to the 1970s.
This newest case study does not mention the 61-year-old male's race... but if of Asian or Native American descent, or maybe even if not, they should have also checked his genetically-influenced ability to metabolize alcohol.
[+] [-] jlgreco|12 years ago|reply
Probably the most unethical idea I've had all week...
[+] [-] anigbrowl|12 years ago|reply
On a related note, for a few years now I've been trying to think of a way to organize a clinical survey of Toxoplama Gondii (a parasite transmissible from cats to humans that results in inxreased risk-taking behavior) in prison inmates. While it's true that a lot of criminals are in fact Bad People, I think we have drastically underestimated the impact on criminality of environmental factors like poor diet, parasites and so on.
TL;DR a lot of crime may turn out to be a public health problem.
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[+] [-] 127001brewer|12 years ago|reply
While the above is very plausible, it is rather unbelievable that a person could have enough Brewer's Yeast and fermentable material in their gut (or intestinal tract) to produce a significant amount of ethanol.
As a reference, packages of fresh beer yeast contain about one billion cells, which is enough to inoculate five gallons of wort.[1] (Wort is pre-fermented beer.)
1. http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_productdetail.cfm?ProductID=16
[+] [-] MaysonL|12 years ago|reply
and the links there. It's true.
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Antibiotics promote yeast infections, including gastrointestinal Candida overgrowth, and penetration of the GI mucosa.[11] While women are more susceptible to genital yeast infections, men can in fact get them as well. Certain factors, like prolonged antibiotic use, increase the risk for both men and women. ...[1]
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(fungus)
[+] [-] ars|12 years ago|reply
Antifungals exist, but don't work great since, unlike bacteria, fungi (like yeast) have cell structures similar to humans.
The best would be to eat a lot of probiotics, and low carbs.
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Yeast seems even more likely a culprit, and I see the references in this case study detail Japanese cases/research back to the 1970s.
This newest case study does not mention the 61-year-old male's race... but if of Asian or Native American descent, or maybe even if not, they should have also checked his genetically-influenced ability to metabolize alcohol.
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