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Conan Doyle estate seeks US copyright of Sherlock Holmes's 'complex personality'

32 points| 001sky | 12 years ago |theguardian.com | reply

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[+] noonespecial|12 years ago|reply
Seems like that would cause a perpetual copyright paradox. If the characters remain reserved so long as one story or more containing them remains in copyright, the rights holders (the estate in this case) could simply authorize themselves to keep publishing stories containing them.

Locking characters themselves away from public culture forever seems like the exact opposite of the original notion of limited copyright. I cynically expect them to win handily.

All you really need to know about copyright is that Mickey Mouse and The Beetles will never enter the public domain. Extrapolate from there. Its like predicting the future. If it happened a little faster, it'd be a fun party trick.

[+] derefr|12 years ago|reply
At this point, I wish we could just pass a stupid special-case law granting Disney and Apple Music whatever copyrights they currently hold in perpetuity, so that the rest of the copyright system could get back to being useful/healthy.
[+] anigbrowl|12 years ago|reply
I seriously doubt that they'll win this, although I have to grant them Moriarty-like ambition.
[+] atlantic|12 years ago|reply
The Beetles -> The Beatles
[+] gabemart|12 years ago|reply
Can anyone argue with a straight face that there exists any creative person anywhere in the world whose creative output is in any way dependent on whether or not their estate will have the legal right to collect royalties from derivative works 83 years after their death?
[+] chrismcb|12 years ago|reply
The folks at Disney can. Personally I believe that any copyright term that exceeds the average human lifespan does not live up to the spirit of "limited."
[+] colomon|12 years ago|reply
More to the point, can anyone argue that extending the royalties from works created 83 years ago makes the author more likely to have written them back them?
[+] jiggy2011|12 years ago|reply
I suppose the rights are worth more if they can be protected for longer. A higher potential sale price is an incentive to invest more money/time into the development of a franchise.

How this scales down to the case of an individual author seems more dubious though.

[+] r0h1n|12 years ago|reply
What happens if the estate licenses another writer to pen a few more Sherlock stories (kinda like how Eric Van Lustbader is writing newer Bourne novels - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_Trilogy)?

In essence, wouldn't the character still continue to get more "complex" even after the original author was long dead?

[+] gruseom|12 years ago|reply
I'm surprised that Conan Doyle was publishing Sherlock Holmes stories as late as 1927. I thought he had stopped long before that, since he hated the character.
[+] dagw|12 years ago|reply
He didn't really hate the character as much as he was tired of him and wanted to focus his time on writing what he considered more important works. He did try to stop writing Holmes stories in the middle of his career, and managed about 10 years before being forced back due to pressure from his publishers and the public.
[+] rorrr2|12 years ago|reply
Can I patent Conan Doyle estate's complex douchebaggery?
[+] codesuela|12 years ago|reply
nope, it's pretty flat (like characters in TV shows)